How to Calculate Resistors in Parallel Uncertainty

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The discussion revolves around calculating the equivalent resistances of two resistors in series and parallel, each with specified resistance values and associated uncertainties. The original poster presents their calculations and seeks feedback on the methodology used to estimate uncertainties in the results.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations for series and parallel resistances, questioning the methods used for estimating uncertainties. There is an exploration of different formulas for uncertainty propagation, with some participants suggesting alternative approaches based on online resources.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback and suggesting methods for verifying the calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach, but guidance has been offered regarding checking answers through maximum and minimum values.

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Participants are operating under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the use of certain methods or assumptions in their calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the appropriateness of their approach to uncertainty propagation.

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Homework Statement



We are told that resistor 1 has a resistance of 4700Ω ± 5% and resistor 2 has a resistance of 6800Ω ± 5% and the equivalent series and parallel resistances are to be calculated with an estimate of uncertainty.

Homework Equations



RSeries = R1 + R2
RParallel = R1 × R2 / R1 + R2

Uncertainties can simply be added if their measured numbers are added or subtracted.

The formula we were given for multiplying or dividing uncertainty is the following:

If z = x ⋅ y or z = x / y
Then

Δz=z(√(Δx/x)2+(Δy/y)2) (The square root covers everything in the equation except for z)

The Attempt at a Solution



I believe that I am doing the math correctly, but my the method doesn't really appear to correspond to anything else I have seen.

I have done the following:

RSeries = 4700 + 6800 =11500Ω
Uncertainty = 235 + 340 = 575Ω (That's just 5% of each number)

I feel that my method might be going wrong here:

R1 × R2 = 4700 × 6800 = 31,960,000
Uncertainty ≅ 2,259,913.273 (Using the uncertainty multiplication/division formula)

The bottom half of the parallel equation has already been calculated.

To get the equivalent resistance and uncertainty, I used the multiplication/division formula again.

RParallel = 31,960,000 / 11500 ≅ 2,779Ω
Uncertainty = 2779(√(2,259,913.273 / 31,960,000 )2 + (575 / 11500)2)

Which gives ~241Ω.

Is 2779 ± 241Ω a correct and acceptable way to display this answer or have I done something wrong here? Any feedback would be appreciated. :smile:
 
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LCHL said:

Homework Statement



We are told that resistor 1 has a resistance of 4700Ω ± 5% and resistor 2 has a resistance of 6800Ω ± 5% and the equivalent series and parallel resistances are to be calculated with an estimate of uncertainty.

Homework Equations



RSeries = R1 + R2
RParallel = R1 × R2 / R1 + R2

Uncertainties can simply be added if their measured numbers are added or subtracted.

The formula we were given for multiplying or dividing uncertainty is the following:

If z = x ⋅ y or z = x / y
Then

Δz=z(√(Δx/x)2+(Δy/y)2) (The square root covers everything in the equation except for z)

The Attempt at a Solution



I believe that I am doing the math correctly, but my the method doesn't really appear to correspond to anything else I have seen.

I have done the following:

RSeries = 4700 + 6800 =11500Ω
Uncertainty = 235 + 340 = 575Ω (That's just 5% of each number)

I feel that my method might be going wrong here:

R1 × R2 = 4700 × 6800 = 31,960,000
Uncertainty ≅ 2,259,913.273 (Using the uncertainty multiplication/division formula)

The bottom half of the parallel equation has already been calculated.

To get the equivalent resistance and uncertainty, I used the multiplication/division formula again.

RParallel = 31,960,000 / 11500 ≅ 2,779Ω
Uncertainty = 2779(√(2,259,913.273 / 31,960,000 )2 + (575 / 11500)2)

Which gives ~241Ω.

Is 2779 ± 241Ω a correct and acceptable way to display this answer or have I done something wrong here? Any feedback would be appreciated. :smile:
Welcome to the PF.

You can easily check your answers by substituting the max values for each resistor in the equations for the series and parallel combinations, and then substitute in the minimum values and re-calculate. Then you can see what the % difference is (+/-%) between the max and min combinations...
 
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Hi. Thanks for the reply. Doing the following suggests that the uncertainty is ~139Ω.

Looking online, I found a formula that corresponds to this answer.

http://physics.stackexchange.com/qu...quivalent-resistance-of-resistors-in-parallel

I would therefore have to think that I should apply this formula instead. Thank you for guiding me to the answer. :oldsmile: Having said that, I don't know what's wrong with what I did above. My two best guesses are that you can't use it for both a product and a quotient, because the uncertainty gets compounded somehow, or alternatively, the formula is wrong.
 
LCHL said:
Hi. Thanks for the reply. Doing the following suggests that the uncertainty is ~139Ω.

Looking online, I found a formula that corresponds to this answer.

http://physics.stackexchange.com/qu...quivalent-resistance-of-resistors-in-parallel

I would therefore have to think that I should apply this formula instead. Thank you for guiding me to the answer. :oldsmile: Having said that, I don't know what's wrong with what I did above. My two best guesses are that you can't use it for both a product and a quotient, because the uncertainty gets compounded somehow, or alternatively, the formula is wrong.
Yeah, I'd go with the formula that you found online. The parallel combination calculation involves both products and quotients. I'm no expert in uncertainty, but my simple method usually works for me. :smile:
 
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