How to Calculate Structure Constants of SU(N) Using Kroenecker Deltas?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of structure constants of SU(N) using Kronecker deltas, specifically exploring the relationships and identities involving these constants and their representations in terms of symmetric coefficients.

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Main Points Raised

  • Jon inquires about exploiting the product of structure constants of SU(N) through Kronecker deltas, referencing his understanding of SU(2) with the Levi-Civita symbol.
  • Sam provides a formula involving totally symmetric coefficients d_{abc} and presents identities related to the structure constants and Jacobi identities.
  • Jon expresses gratitude for Sam's formula, indicating it was the information he sought.
  • Another participant questions the correctness of Sam's Jacobi identity, asserting that it should involve only d^{abc} instead of f^{abc} and provides the corrected form of the identity.
  • This participant also requests references for the contraction formula for structure constants of SU(N).

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There is disagreement regarding the formulation of the Jacobi identity, with one participant asserting that the identity provided by another is incorrect. The discussion remains unresolved as participants have differing views on the correct formulation.

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Limitations include the lack of references provided for the identities discussed and the dependence on specific definitions of structure constants and symmetric coefficients.

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Hi there,

Does anybody know how to exploit the product of structure constants of SU(N) through Kroenecker deltas? I mean

\sum_a f_{abc}f_{ade}

I know this for SU(2) as in this case I have the Levi-Civita symbol but in other cases I was not able to recover it in literature. Any help appreciated.

Jon
 
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Lester said:
Hi there,

Does anybody know how to exploit the product of structure constants of SU(N) through Kroenecker deltas? I mean

\sum_a f_{abc}f_{ade}

I know this for SU(2) as in this case I have the Levi-Civita symbol but in other cases I was not able to recover it in literature. Any help appreciated.

Jon

It is given in terms of the totally symmetric coefficients d_{abc} which vanish in SU(2);

f_{abe}f_{cde} = \frac{2}{n} (\delta_{ac}\delta_{bd} - \delta_{ad}\delta_{bc}) + ( d_{ace}d_{bde} - d_{bce}d_{ade})

Another useful identities are (Jacobi identities)

f_{abe}d_{ecd} + f_{cbe}d_{aed} + f_{dbe}d_{ace} = 0

and the usual one for the structure constants f_{abc}


regards

sam
 
Thanks a lot Sam. This was the formula I was looking for.

Jon
 
Dear Sam & Lester

Can you please tell me any book reference for these identities involving $d^{abc}$ in jacobi identity and the structure constants contraction.

Thanks in advance
 
Dear samalkhaiat

Your formula for jacobi identity is wrong. Actually it should have all d^{abc} instead of the f^{abc} everywhere. The correct Jacobi identity is:

d^{ace}d^{bde}+d^{ade}d^{bce}+d^{bae}d^{cde}=0

Kindly provide me any references for contraction formula for structure constants of SU(N).

Thanks.
 

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