How to calculate the end point of a vector?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the endpoint of a vector given its initial point, magnitude, and angle. Participants explore various mathematical approaches and equations related to this problem, including trigonometric relationships and vector components.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose using the equations (X2-X1)^2 = R^2 - (Y2-Y1)^2 and tanθ = (Y2-Y1)/(X2-X1) to find the final point (X2, Y2).
  • Another participant suggests that Y2 can be expressed as Y1 + tan(θ)(X2-X1) and then substituting this into the distance equation to solve for X2.
  • One participant hints at the relationships (Y2-Y1)/R and (X2-X1)/R, indicating a potential simplification.
  • Another participant mentions a faster method using (X2-X1) = R cos(θ) and (Y2-Y1) = R sin(θ) to calculate the components directly.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of the angle θ and how it affects the interpretation of the vector's direction, particularly regarding the sign of the components.
  • A participant introduces an interesting variation of the problem by considering θ as a bearing from North, which is relevant in surveying and navigation contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple approaches to the problem, and while some methods are acknowledged as faster or more intuitive, there is no consensus on a single preferred method. The discussion remains open with various interpretations and techniques proposed.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the definitions of angles and the coordinate system are not explicitly stated, which may affect the application of the proposed methods. The discussion also touches on the implications of vector direction and magnitude without resolving these nuances.

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Knowing the initial point of a vector (X1,Y1) and its magnitude and angle (R,θ)
HOW CAN I CALCULATE ITS FINAL POINT (X2,Y2)?

like I know
(X2-X1)^2 = R^2 - (Y2-Y1)^2
tanθ= [Y2-Y1]/[X2-X1]
 
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Morgoth said:
Knowing the initial point of a vector (X1,Y1) and its magnitude and angle (R,θ)
HOW CAN I CALCULATE ITS FINAL POINT (X2,Y2)?

like I know
(X2-X1)^2 = R^2 - (Y2-Y1)^2
tanθ= [Y2-Y1]/[X2-X1]

The last equation gives us

Y_2=Y_1+\tan(\theta)(X_2-X_1)

Now plug this value for Y_2 in the equation

(X_2-X_1)^2 + (Y_2-Y_1)^2=R^2

and solve for X_2 (you will get two values, why?, which value you want depends on \theta).
 


Hint: Do you also know what (Y2-Y1)/R and (X2-X1)/R are?

Edit: I wonder how many times I've made a post only to find that micromass replied a minute earlier. :smile:
 


Fredrik said:
Edit: I wonder how many times I've made a post only to find that micromass replied a minute earlier. :smile:

You snooze, you lose :-p

But your to this question answer is way better than mine! I didn't even think of something like that.
 
thanks everyone. I think i thought of a faster way, like using:
(x2-x1)= r cosθ
(y2-y1)= r sinθ
 
Morgoth said:
thanks everyone. I think i thought of a faster way, like using:
(x2-x1)= r cosθ
(y2-y1)= r sinθ
That's exactly what I suggested. :smile:
 
lol fair enough :p the x/r and y/r thing didn't work in my mind that fast...

Now about the question to "why"
prolly because a vector showing to the -x or +x makes no difference for measuring its magnitude (r=+/- sqrt[Δx^2 + Δy^2, however - has no meaning, for you define r>=0). it's a problem of θ to solve.
 
Knowing the initial point of a vector (X1,Y1) and its magnitude and angle (R,θ)
HOW CAN I CALCULATE ITS FINAL POINT (X2,Y2)?

An interesting variation of this problem is if θ is the bearing from North as used by surveyors and navigators.
 

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