How to calculate the force exerted by the "tendon" on the "tibia" bone?

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To calculate the force exerted by the tendon and the resistance on the tibia when a 70 kg person stands on their tiptoes, the weight is determined to be 686 N. The equilibrium conditions reveal that the force exerted by the tendon (P) is 2058 N, calculated using torque about the fulcrum of the tibia. The total resistance (R) acting on the tibia is then found to be 2744 N, indicating that the tibia experiences a compression of four times the body weight. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying the pivot point and lever arms in torque calculations. Overall, the calculations illustrate the significant forces at play in this biomechanical scenario.
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TL;DR Summary: how to calculate the force exerted by the "tendon" and the resistance occurring on the "tibia" if a 70kg man leans on his tip of the foot.

Hello,
This is the question:
"A 70 kg person stands on the tip of the foot. Assuming a configuration as in Figure 5.6 calculate a) the force P exerted by the tendon; b) the resistance R acting on the tibia; c) the percentage deformation of the tibia, assuming that the section of the tibia is 3.8x10-4m^2 and the Young's modulus is Y=1.6x10^10N/M^2"
This is the image 5.6
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This was my reasoning:
I first calculate the weight:
2 W = m* g = 70kg *9.8m/ s = 686N
Remembering that a rigid body is in equilibrium when the results of forces and moments are zero, I write the following conditions:
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P is congruent with the result of the exercise, instead R is different; the exercise results in 1372N which by my reasoning is impossible.
What am I doing wrong?
To calculate point c) I would have to apply Hooke's law which depends on the value of R, and of course this result is also wrong.
Thank you and best regards
Gaetano
 
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Iwawa48 said:
"A 70 kg person stands on the tip of the foot. ...

2 W = m* g = 70kg *9.8m/ s = 686N
Ther problem statement sounds like standing on one foot only to me so you would drop that factor 2

Iwawa48 said:
Remembering that a rigid body is in equilibrium when the results of forces and moments are zero, I write the following conditions:
Both equilibrium equations seem wrong. Think again and use the force convention from the diagram, where all 3 forces are the ones acting on the foot.

For the moment equilibrium on the foot:
What pivot did you choose?
What are the lever arms of each force around that pivot?
Which forces produce clockwise and which counter-clockwise moments?

For the force equilibrium the foot:
Which forces point up, which down?
 
Assume standing on the tip of one foot, not two.
70 kg supported by the toe, W = m⋅g = 70 * 9.8 = 686 N.
The bottom of the tibia is a fulcrum.
Torque about fulcrum is zero; P * 5 cm = W * 15 cm ;
P = 686 * (15 / 5) = 2058 N.
R = W + P = 2058 + 686 N = 2744 N.
 
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Baluncore said:
Assume standing on the tip of one foot, not two.
70 kg supported by the toe, W = m⋅g = 70 * 9.8 = 686 N.
The bottom of the tibia is a fulcrum.
Torque about fulcrum is zero; P * 5 cm = W * 15 cm ;
P = 686 * (15 / 5) = 2058 N.
R = W + P = 2058 + 686 N = 2744 N.
In other words, your tibia is compressed by 4 times your body weight here. And that is just the optimal static 2D case which doesn't include the muscle forces for moments in the other planes, antagonistic muscle co-contraction, and additional ground reaction for accelerating your body up, like in jumping off.
 
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Baluncore said:
The bottom of the tibia is a fulcrum.
Torque about fulcrum is zero; P * 5 cm = W * 15 cm ;
Yes, though taking the toes as the axis is also valid. But then the equation is R*15cm = P*(5+15)cm. The OP seems to have been inconsistent about the choice.
 
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