How to calculate the weight of a gear?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the weight of a spur gear and whether this weight should be included in the analysis of forces acting on a line shaft. Participants explore various methods for determining the weight, including approximations and the use of CAD software.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the necessity of including the gear's weight in force calculations, suggesting that the required accuracy influences this decision.
  • One approach proposed is to approximate the gear as a cylinder, calculating its volume and using the material's density to find the weight.
  • Another participant suggests weighing the gear directly if it is available, or treating it as a body of revolution based on its pitch radius if only a drawing is available.
  • There are multiple suggestions on how to calculate the volume, including using a formula for the volume of a cylinder and considering numerical integration for more complex shapes.
  • One participant mentions a specific formula for the volume of a gear, noting its accuracy depends on the gear's geometry and the diameter used in the calculation.
  • Concerns are raised about the applicability of the volume formula for different gear shapes, particularly if the gear has features like a hub or rim.
  • Some participants recommend using CAD software to model the gear, although there are differing opinions on the best approach to obtain accurate volume measurements.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity of including the gear's weight in calculations and the methods for determining its weight. There is no consensus on the best approach, and multiple competing methods are discussed.

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Limitations include the assumptions made about the gear's geometry, the accuracy required for calculations, and the potential need for numerical integration in cases of complex cross-sections.

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I don't know if I have to include the weight of a gear in order to proceed on computing the forces acting on the plane of line shaft. If I have to determine it, how do I calculate the weight of the gear (spur gear)?
 
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Ballena Joseph said:
I don't know if I have to include the weight of a gear in order to proceed on computing the forces acting on the plane of line shaft.

That depends on how accurate you need to be. We can't answer that question without a lot more specific detail.

Ballena Joseph said:
If I have to determine it, how do I calculate the weight of the gear (spur gear)?

How would you determine the weight of any object of any shape?
 
Perhaps approximate the gear to a cylinder. Calculate the volume, look up the density of the material it's made from. Bash the numbers into the calculator.
 
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If the gear is available, you can simply weigh it on a scale.

If you only have a drawing, you can treat it as a body of revolution (neglecting the teeth) with an outside radius about equal to the pitch radius. This will result in a calculated value that is quite close.
 
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CWatters said:
Perhaps approximate the gear to a cylinder. Calculate the volume, look up the density of the material it's made from. Bash the numbers into the calculator.
I already looked up for the density of material for gear. But how can I calculate the volume? What is the formula?
 
Google volume of a cylinder.
 
Much depends upon how closely you want to approximate the volume and hence the mass. If a simple cylinder approximation is sufficient for your purposes, then that will be easy based on what you find on Google.

If the cross section is complicated, you may need to do a volume integration. If you can't do that in closed form, it is always possible to do a numerical integration. This will put to use what you learned in Integral Calculus.
 
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Dr.D said:
Much depends upon how closely you want to approximate the volume and hence the mass. If a simple cylinder approximation is sufficient for your purposes, then that will be easy based on what you find on Google.

If the cross section is complicated, you may need to do a volume integration. If you can't do that in closed form, it is always possible to do a numerical integration. This will put to use what you learned in Integral Calculus.
I found a formula for the volume of gear, that is (πD/4)*b(face width) which is similar to the formula for volume of cylinder.
 
Ballena Joseph said:
I found a formula for the volume of gear, that is (πD/4)*b(face width) which is similar to the formula for volume of cylinder.

That expression is exact, with two provisions:
1) provided the gear body is a flat disk (no raised hub or rim);
2) provided you know what diameter to use.
Somewhere near the pitch diameter is the correct value for the diameter, but that is not exactly correct. I know of no way to specify exactly what the correct diameter is.
 
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The formula you quoted will not do well at all for a gear of the sort shown in the attached figure.
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Dr.D said:
The formula you quoted will not do well at all for a gear of the sort shown in the attached figure.View attachment 221557
I have no choice but to assume that the gear is flat and there is no hub or rim.
 
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anorlunda said:
That depends on how accurate you need to be. We can't answer that question without a lot more specific detail.
How would you determine the weight of any object of any shape?
use solid work to get any weight
 
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Um, unless your CAD app can simply cough up the volume, why not model the gear by parts, adding and subtracting solid-geometry primitives ? And, to a first approximation, model the teeth as a disk of 'datum circle' diameter ??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gear
 

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