How to choose window fans to cool and dehumidify multi room 300 sq ft condo without air conditioning?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using window fans for cooling and dehumidifying a 300 square foot condominium without air conditioning. Participants explore various strategies, environmental conditions, and the effectiveness of different fan types in achieving comfortable indoor conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that window fans can help achieve indoor conditions similar to those outside, depending on external temperature and humidity levels.
  • Others argue that if outdoor humidity and temperature are equal to or higher than indoor levels, window fans alone may not suffice, and a dehumidifier could be necessary.
  • A participant mentions that using a portable dehumidifier introduces heat into the living space, which could be problematic.
  • There are suggestions to utilize box fans to circulate air effectively within the condo, especially if room layouts complicate airflow.
  • One participant shares their personal experience of cooling their home by utilizing outdoor air at night and managing humidity through ventilation.
  • Another participant proposes that solar-reflective films on windows could help mitigate heat from sunlight, although this would not completely solve the issue.
  • Concerns are raised about maintaining comfortable indoor temperatures without excessive reliance on air conditioning or heating.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the effectiveness of window fans versus dehumidifiers and air conditioning. There is no consensus on the best approach, as some advocate for fans while others emphasize the need for additional cooling or dehumidifying solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss specific temperature and humidity ranges, indicating that conditions may vary significantly. The effectiveness of proposed solutions may depend on individual circumstances, such as room layouts and external environmental factors.

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Is it possible to use window fans only for dehumidification and cooling 300 square feet condominium ?
 
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Welcome to PF.

What is the external temperature range and relative humidity?
What temperature range will you accept inside?
 
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The short answer is with fans and a window you can get the conditions inside close to those outside.
 
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pane-rubrics said:
Is it possible to use window fans only for dehumidification and cooling 300 square feet condominium ?
It may not be possible if the humidity and temp outside is the same or higher as the humidity or temp inside. A small dehumidifier might be the best solution on high humidity days.

I would recommend setting the dehumidifier at 50%, to reduce the humidity, but also use less electricity.
 
For a portable or floor model, be aware that all the electricity it uses ends up as heat within the apartment.

If that would be a problem for you, I recommend either a window or portable air conditioner. The dehumidifier and and air conditioner use exactly the same technology, it's just that the air conditioner dumps the waste heat outdoors instead of in your living quarters.

I live quite close to the Pacific Ocean in Southern California. With central heat & air conditioning - and a portable dehumidifier, - there are always a few days in the summer when both A/C and the dehumidifier are needed.

Also, depending on the room layouts, you might need a box fan to get conditioned air into one of the rooms. With 300 sq.ft. the Low speed of the box fan would likely do the job.

Cheers,
Tom
 
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Baluncore said:
Welcome to PF.

What is the external temperature range and relative humidity?
What temperature range will you accept inside?
Thanks I am more concerned about nights.
Expected outdoors environment in 21st century
1. Highest 28 degree C, Minimum 12 degree C , maybe 83% humidity
Indoor preferably 23 degree C
 
Tom.G said:
For a portable or floor model, be aware that all the electricity it uses ends up as heat within the apartment.

If that would be a problem for you, I recommend either a window or portable air conditioner. The dehumidifier and and air conditioner use exactly the same technology, it's just that the air conditioner dumps the waste heat outdoors instead of in your living quarters.

I live quite close to the Pacific Ocean in Southern California. With central heat & air conditioning - and a portable dehumidifier, - there are always a few days in the summer when both A/C and the dehumidifier are needed.

Also, depending on the room layouts, you might need a box fan to get conditioned air into one of the rooms. With 300 sq.ft. the Low speed of the box fan would likely do the job.

Cheers,
Tom
Thanks. I believe some type of fans are more effective like ceiling fans and dehumidifier is more environmentally friendly.
I am hoping to draw air at cooler side of condo and exhaust them at hotter side of condo.
 
pane-rubrics said:
Thanks. I believe some type of fans are more effective like ceiling fans and dehumidifier is more environmentally friendly.
I am hoping to draw air at cooler side of condo and exhaust them at hotter side of condo.
That of course will work if the outdoor temperature on your 'cooler' side is below your desired temperature.

If the 'hot' side of your condo is hot because of Sun shining in through windows, adding some solar-reflective film on the glass will certainly improve, but not correct the situation.

Another trick with fans is to run them full speed at night, pushing cooler night air through the rooms and cooling the walls and contents.

Cheers,
Tom
 
pane-rubrics said:
1. Highest 28 degree C, Minimum 12 degree C , maybe 83% humidity
Indoor preferably 23 degree C
Those numbers are similar to my summer temperatures. So I do not need, or have A/C.

I prefer the cold overnight, so I open the house and cool it, by blowing air through insect screens. In the morning, I close up the house, then cruise through the day on the cooled internal thermal mass. The time for transition is based on the difference between internal and external temperatures.

There may be a few days of heatwave, when I get 40°C outside in the afternoon, but the house inside, still remains below 30°C during those days. Those days seem to be less often than a decade ago.

The problem with humidity is human transpiration in a closed space. That is vented during the open house overnight. In winter, I will often open the house for an hour or more in the afternoon.

Hot water in bathroom and kitchen generate higher humidity, moisture that I remove with an extractor fan during the day, before it can condense.

One important thing is not having the house too cold in summer, or too hot in winter, so I do not have to change clothing before going in or out. That also reduces the cost and quantity of the insulation required.
 
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