How to compute the magnitude of a initial velocity u

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The problem involves a rock being thrown horizontally from a tower and hitting the ground after a specified time, with a given angle of descent. The objective is to compute the initial velocity of the rock.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the motion in both x and y directions, referencing gravitational effects and trigonometric relationships. There is uncertainty regarding the calculations and the interpretation of the results, particularly in determining the initial speed.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the calculations and emphasized the need to find the x component of the velocity. There is ongoing exploration of different approaches to arrive at the initial speed, with some participants questioning the correctness of the previous attempts.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of unit discrepancies and the need for clarity in the calculations. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the relationship between distance, time, and speed.

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Homework Statement


A rock is thrown horizontally from a tower point A, and hits the ground 3.5 s later at point B. A line from A to B makes an angle of 50 degrees with the horizontal.
Compute the magnitude of a initial velocity u of the rock.

The Attempt at a Solution


I started looking at the motion in x direction, which is
u the unknown.
Then i looked at the motion in y direction:
And here we have the gravity.
so i used the formula:
s=1/2 * g * t^2

1/2*9.81*(3.5)^2 =60 m/s^2

from trigonometry

tan(50)=60/x
solving x i get 50.34 meters

But I'm not sure if I have done it corretly.

Thank you for your help.
 
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javii said:
1/2*9.81*(3.5)^2 =60 m/s^2
The units should be meters. Other than that, so far you are on the right track, but you have not answered the question yet. You found where the rock lands horizontally, but you are asked to find its initial speed.
 
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javii said:
1/2*9.81*(3.5)^2 =60 m/s^2**m**
javii said:
solving x i get 50.34 meters
That's right. But you need to find the x component of the velocity.
 
kuruman said:
The units should be meters. Other than that, so far you are on the right track, but you have not answered the question yet. You found where the rock lands horizontally, but you are asked to find its initial speed.
cnh1995 said:
That's right. But you need to find the x component of the velocity.
kuruman said:
The units should be meters. Other than that, so far you are on the right track, but you have not answered the question yet. You found where the rock lands horizontally, but you are asked to find its initial speed.
aha, so I have to times the denominator with the time (3.5):

tan(50)=60/x*3.5
Then I will get
14.38 m/s

It that true?
 
That is the correct answer. However it is more conventional to divide (untimes) the distance by the time to get the speed. :smile:
 
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kuruman said:
That is the correct answer. However it is more conventional to divide (untimes) the distance by the time to get the speed. :smile:
haha, i will remember that for next time :) Thank you for your time. :)
 

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