How to Compute the Mass of Sgr A* Using Star Orbits?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the mass of the black hole Sgr A* based on the orbits of stars S0-2 and S0-16. Participants are analyzing the implications of recent observational data and the relevant equations in the context of gravitational physics.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to compute the mass using a specific formula, but there are questions about the correctness of the formula and the calculations. Some participants suggest checking for missing factors and inconsistencies in the results.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in verifying calculations and discussing the formula used. There is a recognition of potential discrepancies in the results, and some guidance is offered regarding the formula's accuracy. The conversation indicates a collaborative effort to clarify the computations involved.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding unit conversions and the application of the formula, as well as a mention of the order of magnitude expected for the mass of Sgr A*. Participants are reflecting on their calculations and the challenges of applying physics concepts correctly.

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Homework Statement


New observations of the stars orbiting the black hole at the Galactic Center (Sgr
A*) have improved the measurements. Here are the latest results from Gillessen et
al. (2009) for star S0-2: period P = 15:8 yr, semimajor axis a = 1025 AU, and
eccentricity e = 0:880; and for star S0-16: P = 47:3 yr, a = 2130 AU, and e = 0:963.
(a) Compute the mass (in units of solar masses) of Sgr A* implied by the new results.
Do the two stars give a consistent answer?


Homework Equations


M=(4pie^2 a^3)/Gp^2


The Attempt at a Solution


For s0-2 i first converted AU to cm and years to seconds then 4pie^2(1.53e16)^3 /(6.6743e-8)(498599430)^2
and got 8.52e16 grams then 4284399 Mo is this correct the formula i used to find mass of the black hole?
 
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I think you're missing a factor of pi, double check the formula

M=(4 pi^2 e^2 a^3)/Gp^2

got 8.52e16 grams then 4284399 Mo

Something's fishy because 4 * 106 M_\odot is the right order of magnitude, but 8.52e16 grams is 17 orders of magnitude smaller than a solar mass.

My computation is 3.34 106 M_\odot. The WA expression is

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4+%28pi^2%29+%28.880%29^2+%281025+*+149597870.700+*10^3%29^3+%2F%28+%286.67428+*+10^%28-11%29%29+%2815.8+*31556952++%29^2+%281.988+*+10^30++%29

if you want to compare.
 
ok thanks ill check again later
 
formula is correct what i have well that is to find the mass of the interior orbit of the star also its 8.52e39 idk why i always write down something wrong when i do physics lol
 

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