How to Confirm the R-Value of a Piece of Insulation?

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This discussion focuses on confirming the R-value of insulation materials through at-home experiments. Participants suggest using a box filled with ice to measure the time it takes for the ice to melt, which can indicate the insulation's effectiveness. The experiment can be conducted indoors at a stable temperature, and while dry ice is mentioned, regular ice is recommended for safety and ease of use. The conversation also touches on the importance of monitoring external temperatures during the experiment.

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I'm getting ready to winterize my home and was browsing the insulation aisle at Home Depot. They have a wide variety of insulating products from which to choose: soft foam, rigid foam, batts, etc.

I got thinking it might be an interesting at-home experiment to confirm the R-values of some of these products.
For example, say I bought a piece of R-5 rigid foam and a piece of R-10 rigid foam.
Is there a simple experiment I could perform at home to confirm the R-values?
Or more generally, perhaps to find the R-value of styrofoam packaging that mail-order companies use?

However, I have no idea how to go about this.

Any recommendations for how a person would calculate the R-value of insulation products (at home)?
 
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Build a box, fill it with a known mass of ice and time how long it takes to all melt.
 
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russ_watters said:
fill it with a known mass of ice
You could avoid some mess with dry ice.
 
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russ_watters said:
Build a box, fill it with a known mass of ice and time how long it takes to all melt.
You would also need the temperature on the outside of the box, right?

Could be a good lab exercise!
 
Philip Koeck said:
You would also need the temperature on the outside of the box, right?

Could be a good lab exercise!
Yep, indoors at a stable ambient temperature.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
You could avoid some mess with dry ice.

russ_watters said:
Yep, indoors at a stable ambient temperature.
Please, not any significant amount of dry ice in-doors.

The CO2 gas, carbon dioxide, can suffocate living creatures.

On the other hand, leafy plants will love it. :oldbiggrin:

Cheers,
Tom
 
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Tom.G said:
Please, not any significant amount of dry ice in-doors.
I said regular ice. I'm not as concerned about the safety as you because a small amount in a closed container it will sublimate fairly slowly*, but regular ice is easier to get, handle and use for this test.

*My clients store it in pallet sized bins indoors. All of the risk happens when shoveling it from one bin to another.
 
Tom.G said:
Please, not any significant amount of dry ice in-doors.
Dry ice expands at about 600:1 on evaporation. (As does pretty much everything) A small room is about 60000 liters. OSHA holds that above 19.5% oxygen there is no oxygen deficiency hazard (and biological effects happen below that) So even with small rooms and poor ventilation (obviously not recommended), a few liters is well within industrial limits.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Dry ice expands at about 600:1 on evaporation. (As does pretty much everything) A small room is about 60000 liters. OSHA holds that above 19.5% oxygen there is no oxygen deficiency hazard (and biological effects happen below that) So even with small rooms and poor ventilation (obviously not recommended), a few liters is well within industrial limits.
CO2 is not an mainly an asphyxiant, it is a toxin. The OSHA 8-hr PEL is 5,000 ppm. STEL: 30,000. IDLH: 40,000.
 
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