I How to Confirm the R-Value of a Piece of Insulation?

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The discussion revolves around winterizing a home and experimenting with insulation R-values using materials from Home Depot. Participants suggest conducting a simple experiment by building a box, filling it with ice, and timing how long it takes to melt to measure insulation effectiveness. There are concerns about using dry ice due to safety risks, with a preference for regular ice for ease of use. The conversation also touches on the importance of maintaining a stable indoor temperature during the experiment. Overall, the thread emphasizes practical methods for verifying insulation performance at home.
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I'm getting ready to winterize my home and was browsing the insulation aisle at Home Depot. They have a wide variety of insulating products from which to choose: soft foam, rigid foam, batts, etc.

I got thinking it might be an interesting at-home experiment to confirm the R-values of some of these products.
For example, say I bought a piece of R-5 rigid foam and a piece of R-10 rigid foam.
Is there a simple experiment I could perform at home to confirm the R-values?
Or more generally, perhaps to find the R-value of styrofoam packaging that mail-order companies use?

However, I have no idea how to go about this.

Any recommendations for how a person would calculate the R-value of insulation products (at home)?
 
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Build a box, fill it with a known mass of ice and time how long it takes to all melt.
 
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russ_watters said:
fill it with a known mass of ice
You could avoid some mess with dry ice.
 
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russ_watters said:
Build a box, fill it with a known mass of ice and time how long it takes to all melt.
You would also need the temperature on the outside of the box, right?

Could be a good lab exercise!
 
Philip Koeck said:
You would also need the temperature on the outside of the box, right?

Could be a good lab exercise!
Yep, indoors at a stable ambient temperature.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
You could avoid some mess with dry ice.

russ_watters said:
Yep, indoors at a stable ambient temperature.
Please, not any significant amount of dry ice in-doors.

The CO2 gas, carbon dioxide, can suffocate living creatures.

On the other hand, leafy plants will love it. :oldbiggrin:

Cheers,
Tom
 
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Tom.G said:
Please, not any significant amount of dry ice in-doors.
I said regular ice. I'm not as concerned about the safety as you because a small amount in a closed container it will sublimate fairly slowly*, but regular ice is easier to get, handle and use for this test.

*My clients store it in pallet sized bins indoors. All of the risk happens when shoveling it from one bin to another.
 
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Please, not any significant amount of dry ice in-doors.
Dry ice expands at about 600:1 on evaporation. (As does pretty much everything) A small room is about 60000 liters. OSHA holds that above 19.5% oxygen there is no oxygen deficiency hazard (and biological effects happen below that) So even with small rooms and poor ventilation (obviously not recommended), a few liters is well within industrial limits.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Dry ice expands at about 600:1 on evaporation. (As does pretty much everything) A small room is about 60000 liters. OSHA holds that above 19.5% oxygen there is no oxygen deficiency hazard (and biological effects happen below that) So even with small rooms and poor ventilation (obviously not recommended), a few liters is well within industrial limits.
CO2 is not an mainly an asphyxiant, it is a toxin. The OSHA 8-hr PEL is 5,000 ppm. STEL: 30,000. IDLH: 40,000.
 
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