How to Convert Parametric Equations into a Cartesian Equation in 3D Modelling?

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The discussion revolves around converting parametric equations into a Cartesian equation within the context of 3D modeling. Participants explore the implications of representing 3D vectors and the relationships between the variables involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a set of parametric equations for 3D modeling and seeks guidance on converting them into a Cartesian equation.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of "Cartesian Equation" in this context, suggesting it relates to a nonhomogeneous linear system of equations.
  • A later post mentions that the function-locus defined by the parametric equations can be viewed as a linear manifold, indicating a relationship with linear algebra concepts.
  • Some participants assert that there is no Cartesian equation for 3D vectors, arguing that a single relationship involving three variables would represent a surface rather than a curve or line.
  • Conversely, another participant claims that a Cartesian form exists for lines in 3D space, providing a formula that relates the position vector and direction vector.
  • One participant notes that some refer to this Cartesian form as the Symmetric Form.

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Participants express differing views on whether a Cartesian equation can be formed from the given parametric equations. Some argue against the possibility, while others provide a formula suggesting it can be done, indicating a lack of consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of representing 3D vectors and the conditions under which a Cartesian form may or may not exist. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of mathematical concepts related to linear systems and vector representation.

prasannapakkiam
Okay, I was doing 3D modelling. To save space I used vector functions to render terrain. Anyway, I came up with 3 parametric equations - each a function of an axis: e.g.: x=4t, y=5t+6, z=7t-9. How can you convert this into a Cartesian Equation?:confused:
 
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What do x, y and z stand for?
 
prasannapakkiam said:
Okay, I was doing 3D modelling. To save space I used vector functions to render terrain. Anyway, I came up with 3 parametric equations - each a function of an axis: e.g.: x=4t, y=5t+6, z=7t-9. How can you convert this into a Cartesian Equation?:confused:

Not sure what you mean by a "Cartesian Equation".
In your case, your are looking for a nonhomogeneous linear system of 2 equations in 3 unknowns.

EDIT.

Basic theorem from linear algebra:
Every linear manifold is a solution set of a nonhomogeneous linear system of equations.

In your example, the function-locus parametrically defined by f(t) = (4t,5t+6,7t-9) can be considered a linear manifold.
It is the range of f.
It is the line of intersection of the two planes determined by the system.
 
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z = 5t + 6 + 2t - 15
 
z(t)=7t-9
x(t)=4t
y(t)=5t+6
i.e. it is like a vector
I was wondering if there is a way to transfer this into a Cartesian equation. I mean if the z did not exist, I would just solve the 2 equations for t and then equate them: x/4=(y-6)5. With that extra function, how would one go about creating a single cartesian equation?
 
prasannapakkiam said:
z(t)=7t-9
x(t)=4t
y(t)=5t+6
i.e. it is like a vector
I was wondering if there is a way to transfer this into a Cartesian equation. I mean if the z did not exist, I would just solve the 2 equations for t and then equate them: x/4=(y-6)5. With that extra function, how would one go about creating a single cartesian equation?


Read the edit in post 3.
 
There is no cartesian equation for 3d vectors. Think about it: if a single relationship included three variables, x, y, z, then any of these variable could not be determined by the value of simply 1 other variable. In fact, such a relationship represents a surface, not a curve or line thereof.
 
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Exactly what I wished to confirm...
 
Actually, there is a Cartesian form.

Given a position vector A <a1,a2,a3>
And a direction vector B <b1,b2,b3>

The Cartesian form of a line in 3 dimensional space is:

(x - a1) / b1 = (y - a2) / b2 = (z - a3) / b3

This can be determined from two points (C,D) by generating the direction vector like so:
A = C - D

And then picking one of the points as the position vector.
See:
http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~jenolive/vect17.html

And I believe you can generate a Cartesian form of a line in N dimensions..
 
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Some people refer to the Cartesian Equation Form as the
Symmetric Form

JFYI
 

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