How to Convert Tartaric Acid to H2C2O4?

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The discussion revolves around the conversion of tartaric acid to oxalic acid, including the identification of chemical structures and reactions involved. Participants are addressing a homework problem that requires understanding the chemical properties and nomenclature of these compounds.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that tartaric acid is identified as oxalic acid and provides its structure as a dicarboxylic acid.
  • Another participant expresses confusion regarding the naming of tartaric acid, questioning why it is referred to as 2,3-dihydroxybutanedioic acid instead of 2,3-dihydroxy-1,4-butanedioic acid.
  • A participant mentions using dilute KMnO4 to differentiate between oxalic acid and tartaric acid, noting that oxalic acid will show a positive result with CO2 and H2O formed, while KMnO4 decolorizes.
  • Some participants criticize others for not attempting to solve the problem fully and for providing incorrect names for the compounds.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus among participants, as some express confusion about the chemical naming conventions while others focus on the reaction properties. Disagreement exists regarding the completeness of the attempted solutions and the accuracy of the compound names.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the naming conventions for tartaric acid and its structural representation. There are also unresolved questions regarding the homework problem's requirements and the participants' understanding of the chemical reactions involved.

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i need ans for this whole question . my ans for part i ) is oxalic acid - dicarboxlic acid tartaric acid - 2,3-dihydroxo-1,4-dicarboxlic acid .

for part c ) I used dilute KMNO4 to differentiate these 2 compounds . Oxalic acid will show positive result , which is CO2 ANH H20 formed , and purple KMON4 decoulorises.
 

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desmond iking said:
i need ans for this whole question

Then try to answer it. Asking four question and answering two of them to pretend you attempted to solve won't work.

Your names are wrong. 30 seconds googling to find the correct ones on the web.
 
Borek said:
ogling to find the correct ones on t
well , the ans for tartraic acid acid is 2,3-dihydroxybutanedioic acid... i am wondering why not 2,3-dihydroxy-1,4-butanedioic acid... Why the 1, 4 is not needed?
 
Borek said:
Then try to answer it. Asking four question and answering two of them to pretend you attempted to solve won't work.

Your names are wrong. 30 seconds googling to find the correct ones on the web.
i am just having problem with the two of the question , NOT ALL...
 

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