How to Correct for 3D Scattering in Rutherford's Gold Foil Experiment?

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The discussion revolves around the analysis of Rutherford's gold foil scattering experiment, specifically focusing on the correction needed for 3D scattering effects when measuring alpha particle counts. The original poster is seeking to understand how to adjust their results to account for the scattering of particles in a three-dimensional cone, as their detector only captures particles along a line.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply a solid angle formula but encounters difficulties due to unknown dimensions. Some participants question whether the issue is a correction or an extrapolation, suggesting that the conic distribution has been flattened onto a plane. Others inquire about the implications of this flattening on the count rates measured at various angles.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, with some suggesting that the count rates may be underestimated due to the geometry of the setup. There is a general exchange of ideas regarding how to quantify the necessary corrections, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method or solution.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing information regarding the geometry of the experimental apparatus, which may affect the calculations and assumptions being discussed. The original poster's lab script includes specific objectives that guide the analysis but does not provide detailed dimensions or parameters for the setup.

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Hey. I've just conducted Rutherford's gold foil scattering experiment and am a little stuck on a part of the analysis. One of the objectives of the lab script is;

'To correct the counting rates measured in one plane for the fact that the foil scatters in a 3D cone'

So the detector only detects alpha particles in a line and doesn't account for others scattering above and below it. I've plotted the count rate as a function of the angle measured with the detector, how will this correction scale my results and how do I calculate this scaling factor?

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I attemped using a solid angle formula but got again stuck with not knowing the dimensions.

Thanks
 

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I don't understand what you are looking for, if you are looking for the stuff missed by the detector, that isn't a correction it's an extrapolation and in fact is the equation for the entire angle dependent distribution. I think you need to correct for the fact that your conic distribution was flattened onto a plane. So look at chords for circles
 
Yes the conic distribution was flattened onto a plane, does that mean the count rate at each angle is actually less than measured?
 
yes since that has the effect of bringing the points closer together
 
So how can I work out how much less counts should me measured? Thanks by the way I think I get the idea
 
well the ratio of the length of the plane and the corresponding segment of the circumference is pretty much the indicator. But I am not familiar with the geometry of your apparatus so I'm working on assumption here
 

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