How to Determine the Coupling Strength for Dirac Neutrinos with the Z Boson?

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The discussion revolves around determining the coupling strength for Dirac neutrinos with the Z boson, specifically comparing it to the known coupling strength for Standard Model neutrinos. The original poster seeks assistance in understanding how to express the coupling for Dirac neutrinos using the provided equations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate the coupling strength of Dirac neutrinos to that of Standard Model neutrinos by manipulating gamma matrix expressions. Some participants question the validity of the steps taken and suggest breaking down the process into smaller parts for clarity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the importance of showing individual steps in calculations. There is a focus on ensuring that the original poster checks their work to identify errors, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

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Participants note the necessity of adhering to homework guidelines, which require showing attempts at solving the problem before receiving help. This has led to some tension in the discussion as the original poster expresses frustration over the responses received.

majorana2015
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Hi All

1. Homework Statement

with the known coupling strenght between SM neutrinos and Z boson

Z_{\mu} \bar{\nu}_{L} { \gamma}^{ \mu} \nu_{L}

how can I get the coupling strength for Dirac neutrinos
Z_{\mu} \bar{\nu}_{Dirac} { \gamma}^{ \mu} (1- { \gamma}_{ 5} ) \nu_{Dirac} ?

thanks
 
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Just clipped off the part of the template where you show your attempt, did you?

Please show your attempt.
 
Yes I did, mainly because I have no idea how to start. Pointless to keep that part .
 
Sorry, but you will have to provide an attempt if you want help.
 
we have Z_{\mu} \bar{\nu}_{L} { \gamma}^{ \mu} \nu_{L}
given that
{\nu}_{L}= \frac {(1- { \gamma}_{ 5} )}{2} \nu_{Dirac}
and
\bar{\nu}_{L}= { \bar {\nu}_{Dirac}} \frac {(1- { \gamma}_{ 5} )}{2} then

Z_{\mu} \bar{\nu}_{L} { \gamma}^{ \mu} \nu_{L} = Z_{\mu} { \bar {\nu}_{Dirac}} \frac {(1- { \gamma}_{ 5} )}{2} { \gamma}^{ \mu} \frac {(1- { \gamma}_{ 5} )}{2} \nu_{Dirac}babysteps... but is it at least kind of right?
 
Can you simplify that?
 
what could I use ?
 
What do you know about products of gamma matrices?
This is the part where "relevant equations" from the homework template are important.
 
thanks!. Do you mean?
<br /> \frac{1}{4} (1- { \gamma}_{ 5} ) { \gamma}^{ \mu} (1- { \gamma}_{ 5} ) = \frac{1}{4} ( { \gamma}^{ \mu} (1- { \gamma}_{ 5})^{2} <br /> can I just do that with 1 − γ_5 term? so I'dhave (1- { \gamma}_{ 5})^{2} = (1- { \gamma}_{ 5}) and then <br /> \frac{1}{4} <br /> Z_{\mu} { \bar {\nu}_{Dirac}}<br /> <br /> { \gamma}^{ \mu} (1- { \gamma}_{ 5} ) <br /> \nu_{Dirac}<br />
 
  • #10
majorana2015 said:
can I just do that with 1 − γ_5 term?
Can you?
Can you check the individual steps?
 
  • #11
is this a joke? i come here for help and all I'm getting are just simpleton questions
 
  • #12
It is not a joke. Your question can be answered with a series of simple steps, and you should be able to do all those steps (or look them up). You try to do too many steps at the same time, which does not lead to the right result, so I encourage you to make smaller steps, and to show them, so we can see what goes wrong.
 
  • #13
majorana2015 said:
is this a joke? i come here for help and all I'm getting are just simpleton questions
Based on the work you have shown, you are making several trivial errors which mess up your computation, which is why you are being asked to check your individual steps. You will not get the answer handed to you here, this is not how PF works. Instead, you can get guidance and help to figure things out on your own, which is generally much better from a learning perspective. You can either chose to scream about this, which will get you nowhere, or accept the help and guidance you are given. One of the two will benefit you in te long run.
 

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