How to Differentiate Functions Involving Powers and Trigonometric Terms?

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The discussion revolves around differentiating functions that involve powers and trigonometric terms. Participants explore various differentiation techniques, including the chain rule and the quotient rule, while addressing specific examples and expressions.

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  • One participant questions the differentiation of \( \cos 4x + \sin^{4} x \) and suggests an initial approach, expressing uncertainty about handling \( \sin^{4} x \).
  • Another participant provides a differentiation result for \( \cos 4x + \sin^{4} x \), indicating the use of both the power rule and the chain rule, and specifies the derivative of \( \sin^{4} x \) using substitution.
  • A participant challenges the necessity of the chain rule for the second part of the differentiation, suggesting it might relate to the quotient rule instead.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the differentiation of \( (16-t^{2})^{-\frac{1}{4}} \), with a participant demonstrating the application of the chain rule and confirming the derivative's form.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the denominator in a previous response while questioning the placement of terms in the differentiation process.
  • A later reply discusses using the quotient rule along with the chain rule for differentiating \( \frac{1}{(16-t^2)^{1/4}} \), providing a detailed breakdown of the steps involved.

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Participants express differing views on the application of the chain rule versus the quotient rule in certain contexts, indicating that there is no consensus on the best approach for some of the differentiation problems presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the complexity of applying multiple differentiation rules, and there are unresolved questions regarding the correct application of these rules in specific examples.

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For d/dx (cos 4x + sin^(4) x)

is it.

-sin(4x)(4) + cos^4 (x)? I was unsure on how to approach sin^4. Thanks.

Also for d/dx (1)/(16-t^2)^(1/4)

Is this correct: (-1/4 (16-t^2)^(-5/4))\((16-t^2)^(1/4))^2??

Thank you.
 
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For (1) [tex]\frac{d}{dx} \cos 4x + \sin^{4} x = -4\sin 4x + 4\sin^{3} x \cos x[/tex]. You have to use both the power rule and the chain rule.

[tex]\frac{d}{dx} \sin^{4}x, \ u = \sin x[/tex]

[tex]\frac{d}{du} u^{4} du = 4u^{3} du[/tex]For (2) the first half is right. The second half, you have to use the chain rule.
 
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Y use the chain rule isn't the second half the bottom of the quotient rule, so it stays like that?/
 
[tex]\frac{d}{dt} (16-t^{2})^{-\frac{1}{4}} = -\frac{1}{4}(16-t^{2})^{-\frac{5}{4}}(-2t)[/tex]. So we have used the chain rule.
 
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O that goes on the top.. the bottom is correct tho right?
 
quote= helpm3pl3ase]Also for d/dx (1)/(16-t^2)^(1/4)

Is this correct: (-1/4 (16-t^2)^(-5/4))\((16-t^2)^(1/4))^2??[/quote]
You can use the quotient rule (with the chain rule):
[tex]\frac{(d/dx(1))(16-t^2)^{1/4}- (1)(d/dx(16-t^2)^{1/4})}{(16-t^2)^{1/2}}[/tex]
[tex]= -\frac{(1)(1/4)(16-t^2)^{-3/4}(-2t)}{(16-t^2)^{1/2}}[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{1}{2}\frac{t}{(16-t^2)^{5/4}}[/tex]

But it is much easier to write the function as
[tex](16- t^2)^{-1/4}[/itex] <br /> and use the chain rule directly:<br /> [tex]d/dx(16- t^2)^{-1/4}= -1/4(16- t^2)^{-5/4}(-2t)[/tex]<br /> [tex]= \frac{1}{2}\frac{t}{(16-t^2)^{5/4}}[/tex][/tex]
 

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