How to do Chicago style citation and bibliography

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the proper use of Chicago style citation and bibliography for an essay involving multiple references to a single source. Participants explore how to cite various pages from the same book without cluttering the bibliography.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether they should list a book multiple times in the bibliography when citing different pages, expressing concern about clarity and aesthetics.
  • Another participant provides guidance on Chicago style, indicating that the first citation must include full details, while subsequent citations can be shortened, including the use of "ibid." for repeated references.
  • A different participant expresses discomfort with the idea of citing many pages from the same source, suggesting it may look unusual in a bibliography.
  • One participant raises a concern about using Chicago style without the style manual, implying that reliance on "ibid." could indicate limited sourcing.
  • Another participant questions the necessity of a style manual and asks about the instructor's approach to teaching citation styles.
  • A later reply suggests the possibility of appending page numbers to a main citation without listing each page in the bibliography, indicating that they have encountered such a method before.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to citing multiple pages from a single source. Multiple competing views remain regarding the use of "ibid." and the necessity of listing each page in the bibliography.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions about citation practices and the potential reliance on specific style manuals, which may not be fully addressed in the discussion.

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I have about 10 different sources for this 10 page essay and I use the main book several times, and cite several different pages. It seems like I can't just have this book listed once in the bibliography and put a superscript 1 in the text every time I reference the book, because no one will know what page of the book that specific citation comes from. So I'm stuck with either listing the book 20 times in my bibliography, which is just ugly and something I can't believe would be correct, or I can just do the in text citation and put the book once in the bibliography, but list every page that is used. Is that the correct way to do it? Thanks.
 
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References in Text: Shortened Citations (14.14; 14.24 - 14.31)
  • The first in-text reference to a given source must be cited in full with the name of the author/s, title of the work, place of publication, name of the publisher, and page number/s of the cited reference (14.14, 14.18). For example: http://www.lib.sfu.ca/file-newest/10619/mooney1.jpg
  • Subsequent notes for sources that have already been cited may be shortened to the author's last name, abbreviated title, and the appropriate page reference (14.14, 14.18, 14.24 - 14.31). For example:
    http://www.lib.sfu.ca/file-newest/10619/mooney2.jpg
  • Immediately following notes that refer to the same source may be shortened even further to "ibid." (short for 'ibidem' - the Latin word for "in the same place") and the appropriate page reference (14.29). For example:
http://www.lib.sfu.ca/file-newest/10619/ibid.jpg
http://www.lib.sfu.ca/help/writing/chicago-turabian
 
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Thank you. I've been searching all over for something like that.
So if I use Mooney as an example. I would reference it like:
1. Mooney, full citation with page number 24 for example
2. Mooney, 25
3. Mooney, 49
4. Mooney, 96
5. Mooney, 100
And so on? Wouldn't that look strange if you've cited 20 different pages? I've never seen a bibliography that looked like that.
 
Should we be concerned that you are trying Chicago style without the style manual in hand? I have seen pages of Ibid. Would not that suggest rather narrow sourcing?

I'm pretty sure that I still have my MLA manual. ETA: Yep, 1977
 
Doug Huffman said:
Should we be concerned that you are trying Chicago style without the style manual in hand? I have seen pages of Ibid. Would not that suggest rather narrow sourcing?

I'm pretty sure that I still have my MLA manual. ETA: Yep, 1977
You shouldn't be concerned. This is the first and last time I'll be using Chicago style. This is for an elective class.
Thanks again.
 
What style manual does your objective field use? Is the class instructor teaching the general need for a manual of style?
 
Isn't there a way to use a main citation but 'append' the page number without listing it in the bibliography?
I believe I've come across something like that before when I needed wanted to use some nice citations.
 

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