How to evaluate an infinite series with a geometric pattern?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating an infinite series with a geometric pattern, specifically the series defined by the sum of 7*(0.35)^k from k=1 to infinity. Participants are exploring the appropriate formulas and methods for calculating the sum, particularly in the context of infinite geometric series.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formula for the sum of an infinite geometric series and question how to apply it when the series starts at k=1 instead of k=0. There are inquiries about handling the infinite nature of the series and the implications of different starting points on the calculation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on how to adjust the series to fit the standard formula for infinite sums. There are multiple interpretations being explored regarding the starting index of the series and how to manipulate it to apply the geometric series formula correctly.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the convergence conditions for the series and the specific adjustments needed when the series does not start at k=0. There is also mention of confusion regarding the application of the formula and the treatment of terms in the series.

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Homework Statement


I'm told to evaluate the following to the thousandths place:

\infty
\Sigma 7*(0.35)^k
k=1


Homework Equations


We know that an infinite equation can be expressed as:

S\infty=(a1)/1-rn

The Attempt at a Solution



The first term (a1) is 7 and r=.35 so I can plug those into the above equation. I can see that we're doing something along the lines of:

7+7(.35)+7(.35^2)+7(.35^3)

However, there are two issues I'm having.

1) How do I plug in n when it's infinity?

2) In the non-infinite sum of geometric series problems I've worked where in the \Sigma equation it's r^k versus the normal format of r^k-1 I had to modify the problem to make it k-1 and ended up multiplying the whole thing by r and then subtracting r from the whole thing... It was kind of crazy and I'm still not sure why and what happened.

Do I have to do something like that here?

How do I solve this equation?

Thank you for your time!
 
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oddjobmj said:

Homework Statement


I'm told to evaluate the following to the thousandths place:

\infty
\Sigma 7*(0.35)^k
k=1


Homework Equations


We know that an infinite equation can be expressed as:

S\infty=(a1)/1-rn
No, this is wrong. The formula for a finite geometric sum is
\sum_{k=0}^n ar^k= \frac{a(1- r^{n+ 1})}{1- r}.

You get the formula for the infinite series by taking the limit as n goes to infinity. It only converges if -1< r< 1 and in that case r^n goes to 0. The sum of an infinite geometric series,
\sum_{n=0}^\infty ar^n= \frac{a}{1- r}

The Attempt at a Solution



The first term (a1) is 7 and r=.35 so I can plug those into the above equation. I can see that we're doing something along the lines of:

7+7(.35)+7(.35^2)+7(.35^3)

However, there are two issues I'm having.

1) How do I plug in n when it's infinity?
There is no "n" in the formula for the sum of an infinite series.

2) In the non-infinite sum of geometric series problems I've worked where in the \Sigma equation it's r^k versus the normal format of r^k-1 I had to modify the problem to make it k-1 and ended up multiplying the whole thing by r and then subtracting r from the whole thing... It was kind of crazy and I'm still not sure why and what happened.

Do I have to do something like that here?
No, you do not.

How do I solve this equation?

Thank you for your time!
Use the formula
\sum_{n=0}^\infty ar^n= \frac{a}{1- r}
 
Alright, thanks!

Now I guess my issue is that k=1 in my equation and I'm really not sure how to get it to 0.
 
Just for future reference if anyone has this question again.

I figured it out after HallsofIvy's help, thanks!

You just take the result of a/(1-r) which happens to be 10.769 in this case and subtract 1*a or '7' to get the end result of 3.769.
 
The "k= 0" term in 7(0.35)^k is 7(0.35)^0= 7. To get the sum from k= 1 to infinity. ust use the formula from 0 to infinity, the subtract 7.

Or: let n= k-1 so that when k= 1, n= 0. Then k= n+ 1 so 7(0.35)^k= 7(0.35)^{n+1}= 7(0.35)(0.35)^n[/math]. Use the formula from n=0 to infinity with [math]a_0= 7(0.35)= 2.45 and r still 0.35. <br /> <br /> Both of those should give the same answer.
 

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