Summing Infinite Series: A Shortcut Using Differentiation

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The discussion revolves around summing an infinite series defined as S=1^2+\frac{3^2}{5^2}+\frac{5^2}{5^4}+\frac{7^2}{5^6}+..., with participants exploring methods to derive its value, specifically \frac{1728}{485}S. The subject area primarily involves series summation techniques and calculus.

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of the series and the expansion of terms. Some explore the use of calculus, specifically differentiation, to find closed forms for series. Others express uncertainty about the next steps after establishing the series' general term.

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There is an ongoing exploration of various methods to approach the problem, including the use of differentiation and the identification of geometric and arithmetic-geometric series. Some participants have shared partial results and insights, while others are seeking further clarification and assistance.

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Participants mention constraints related to homework rules and the need for deeper understanding in preparation for upcoming exams, indicating a focus on learning rather than simply obtaining answers.

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Given S, an Infinite Series Summation, find \frac{1728}{485}S
S=1^2+\frac{3^2}{5^2}+\frac{5^2}{5^4}+\frac{7^2}{5^6}+...
I found out the formula for (r+1)th term of the series, hence making the series asS=1+\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{(2r+1)^2}{(5^r)^2}
Now I have a hard time guessing what to do from now on. I expanded the numerator in summation series, 4r2 + 4r + 1. This formed the GP and AGP series (from 1 and 4r respectively). Now all that is left is to find the summation of 4r2/52r.

By the way, I entered the series up at Wolfram|Alpha and the answer it showed is 5, which is correct.
 
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There might be a direct way, but here is an indirect way:

$$\sum_{r=1}^\infty \frac{r^2}{5^{2r}}\\
= \frac{1}{25} + \sum_{r=2}^\infty \frac{r^2}{5^{2r}}\\
= \frac{1}{25} + \sum_{r=1}^\infty \frac{(r+1)^2}{5^{2(r+1)}}\\
= \frac{1}{25} + \frac{1}{25}\sum_{r=1}^\infty \frac{r^2+2r+1}{5^{2r}}\\
= \frac{1}{25} \left(1+\sum_{r=1}^\infty \frac{2r+1}{5^{2r}}\right) + \frac{1}{25}\sum_{r=1}^\infty \frac{r^2}{5^{2r}}$$
 
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AGNuke said:
Given S, an Infinite Series Summation, find \frac{1728}{485}S
S=1^2+\frac{3^2}{5^2}+\frac{5^2}{5^4}+\frac{7^2}{5^6}+...
I found out the formula for (r+1)th term of the series, hence making the series asS=1+\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{(2r+1)^2}{(5^r)^2}
Now I have a hard time guessing what to do from now on. I expanded the numerator in summation series, 4r2 + 4r + 1. This formed the GP and AGP series (from 1 and 4r respectively). Now all that is left is to find the summation of 4r2/52r.

By the way, I entered the series up at Wolfram|Alpha and the answer it showed is 5, which is correct.

If you do know calculus, that summation would be a standard homework exercise. If
S(x) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} x^n,
then
x\frac{d}{dx} S(x) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} n x^n \\<br /> x \frac{d}{dx} \left[ x\frac{d}{dx} S(x) \right] = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} n^2 x^n
You can find ##S(x)## in closed form, so you can do all the calculations explicitly. Then, of course, you set x = 1/5.
 
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Thanks MFB. I think I got it.:approve: Here's the solution.S=1+4\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{r^2}{5^{2r}}+4\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{r}{5^{2r}}+\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{5^{2r}}I can find the sum of an Arithmetic-Geometric Series, hence\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{r}{5^{2r}}=\frac{25}{576}The Sum of third term, which is a simple Geometric Series,is\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{5^{2r}}=\frac{1}{24}The Problem was the first term, which I happened to resolve thanks to MFB.

MFB said:
\sum_{r=1}^\infty \frac{r^2}{5^{2r}}=\frac{1}{25} \left(1+\sum_{r=1}^\infty \frac{2r+1}{5^{2r}}\right) + \frac{1}{25}\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{r^2}{5^{2r}}
\frac{24}{25}\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{r^2}{5^{2r}}=\frac{1}{25}\left(1+2\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{r}{5^{2r}}+\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{5^{2r}}\right)\Rightarrow 4\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{r^2}{5^{2r}}=\frac{1}{6}\left(1+2\times \frac{25}{576}+\frac{1}{24}\right)=\frac{325}{576}Substituting All the known variables into the First Equation,S=\frac{1728}{1728}+\frac{325}{1728}+\frac{300}{1728}+\frac{72}{1728}= \frac{2425}{1728}\Rightarrow \frac{1728}{485}S=\frac{1728}{485}\times \frac{2425}{1728}=5
Ray Vickson said:
If you do know calculus, that summation would be a standard homework...

...You can find ##S(x)## in closed form, so you can do all the calculations explicitly. Then, of course, you set x = 1/5.

While I do know Calculus, I can only solve them when there is that Integral Sign all over, or in physics. Using it in this manipulative way is not something I've done before. But still, if you could show me what you actually meant, I can learn something, as I need to brace myself for my College Entrance Exam, The IIT-JEE which is only a week apart. So, a little more help will be appreciated.
 
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AGNuke said:
Thanks MFB. I think I got it.:approve: Here's the solution.S=1+4\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{r^2}{5^{2r}}+4\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{r}{5^{2r}}+\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{5^{2r}}I can find the sum of an Arithmetic-Geometric Series, hence\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{r}{5^{2r}}=\frac{25}{576}The Sum of third term, which is a simple Geometric Series,is\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{5^{2r}}=\frac{1}{24}The Problem was the first term, which I happened to resolve thanks to MFB.


\frac{24}{25}\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{r^2}{5^{2r}}=\frac{1}{25}\left(1+2\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{r}{5^{2r}}+\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{5^{2r}}\right)\Rightarrow 4\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}\frac{r^2}{5^{2r}}=\frac{1}{6}\left(1+2\times \frac{25}{576}+\frac{1}{24}\right)=\frac{325}{576}Substituting All the known variables into the First Equation,S=\frac{1728}{1728}+\frac{325}{1728}+\frac{300}{1728}+\frac{72}{1728}= \frac{2425}{1728}\Rightarrow \frac{1728}{485}S=\frac{1728}{485}\times \frac{2425}{1728}=5


While I do know Calculus, I can only solve them when there is that Integral Sign all over, or in physics. Using it in this manipulative way is not something I've done before. But still, if you could show me what you actually meant, I can learn something, as I need to brace myself for my College Entrance Exam, The IIT-JEE which is only a week apart. So, a little more help will be appreciated.

What I mean is just exactly what I said:
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} n x^n = x \frac{d}{dx} \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} x^n <br /> = x \frac{d}{dx} \frac{x}{1-x} = \frac{x}{(1-x)^2}
and
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} n^2 x^n = x \frac{d}{dx} \frac{x}{(1-x)^2}.
You can just go ahead and do the derivative.
 
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OK Thanks! Now I see... Thanks a bunch. I was forgetting the fact that S is the sum of an infinite converging GP.
 
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Now then this is alternate solution to find that term which was bothering me, courtesy Ray Vickson :approve:
S=\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}x^{r}=\frac{x}{1-x}x\frac{\mathrm{d} S}{\mathrm{d} x}=\frac{x}{(1-x)^2}x\frac{\mathrm{d} }{\mathrm{d} x}\left (x\frac{\mathrm{d} S}{\mathrm{d} x} \right )=\frac{x(1+x)}{(1-x)^3}=\sum_{r=1}^{\infty}r^2x^r

Simply substituting ##x=\frac{1}{25}##, I got ##\frac{325}{1728\times 4}##, and multiplying it by 4 (as required) gives ##\frac{325}{1728}## which is the term I required.

Really Interesting using differentiation to find the summation so easily. I definitely will try this method in further question I will attempt. :rolleyes:
 

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