How to find angle between two vectors, given their spherical co-ordinates?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the angle between two vectors given their spherical coordinates. Participants explore the mathematical formulation and proofs related to this topic, including the conversion of spherical coordinates to Cartesian coordinates and the use of inner products.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the formula $\arccos{(\cos{\phi_1}\cos{\phi_2}+\sin{\phi_1}\sin{\phi_2}\cos{(\theta_2-\theta_1)})}=\gamma$ and requests a proof for it.
  • Another participant provides the Cartesian coordinates for points $P_1$ and $P_2$ derived from their spherical coordinates and suggests using the inner product to find the angle.
  • There is a discussion about the representation of the Cartesian coordinates, with one participant noting a difference in the use of $\theta$ and $\phi$ in their respective formulations.
  • One participant suggests that switching the $\theta$s and $\phi$s in the hint provided could lead to proving the result.
  • A clarification is made regarding the inner product notation, confirming that it represents the dot product of vectors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the representation of spherical coordinates in Cartesian form, indicating a lack of consensus on the correct approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the proof of the angle formula.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in the conversion between spherical and Cartesian coordinates, as well as the specific definitions of the angles involved.

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I know that $\arccos{(\cos{\phi_1}\cos{\phi_2}+\sin{\phi_1}\sin{\phi_2}\cos{(\theta_2-\theta_1)})}=\gamma$ But how can i answer the above question? If any member knows the proof of this formula may reply to this question with correct proof.
 
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Dhamnekar Winod said:
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I know that $\arccos{(\cos{\phi_1}\cos{\phi_2}+\sin{\phi_1}\sin{\phi_2}\cos{(\theta_2-\theta_1)})}=\gamma$ But how can i answer the above question? If any member knows the proof of this formula may reply to this question with correct proof.
The Cartesian coordinates of $P_1$ are $(\rho_1\cos\theta_1, \rho_1\sin\theta_1\cos\phi_1,\rho_1\sin\theta_1\sin\phi_1)$, and similarly for $P_2$. Take the inner product, and use the fact that $\def\bv{\mathbf{v}} \langle\bv_1,\bv_2\rangle = |\bv_1||\bv_2|\cos\gamma.$
 
Opalg said:
The Cartesian coordinates of $P_1$ are $(\rho_1\cos\theta_1, \rho_1\sin\theta_1\cos\phi_1,\rho_1\sin\theta_1\sin\phi_1)$, and similarly for $P_2$. Take the inner product, and use the fact that $\def\bv{\mathbf{v}} \langle\bv_1,\bv_2\rangle = |\bv_1||\bv_2|\cos\gamma.$
In my opinion, the Cartesian co-ordinates of $P_1,P_2$ are as follows:
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So your answer differs from the above answer for Cartesian co-ordinates of $P_1, P_2$ using appropriate $\rho_i, \theta_i,\phi_i$ where i=1,2.
 
Dhamnekar Winod said:
So your answer differs from the above answer for Cartesian co-ordinates of $P_1, P_2$ using appropriate $\rho_i, \theta_i,\phi_i$ where i=1,2.
The only difference is that I use $\theta$ and $\phi$ where you are using $\phi$ and $\theta$. If you switch the $\theta$s and $\phi$s in my hint then you should be able to prove the result.
 
@Opalg, Do you mean inner product=$\vec{v_1} \cdot \vec{v_2}=\left\langle v_1,v_2 \right\rangle$
 
Yes. :)
 

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