How to Find the Angle Between Two Vectors?

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The discussion revolves around finding the angle between two vectors given their dot product and cross product. The participants are exploring the relationships between these quantities and how to apply the relevant formulas.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to determine the angle using the formulas for dot and cross products. There are questions about how to derive the necessary values without knowing the vectors explicitly.

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Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, discussing the calculation of the magnitude of the cross product and its relationship to the sine of the angle. There is an exchange of ideas about how to set up the equations involving sine and cosine, with some guidance provided on the relationships between the quantities.

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There is some confusion regarding the notation and the need for exponents in the calculations. Participants are also navigating the implications of using both the dot product and cross product in their reasoning.

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Question:
Let u·v = 5 and u×v = 2i+3j+k. Determine the angle (in degrees to one
decimal place) between the two vectors.

Im not sure on what to do with the equation given since other examples that were done i was given separate equations for u and v

We were told this formula will be used but not sure how to get u and v.
|u x v|=|u||v|sinθ

Thanks in advance to anyone that helps
 
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Michaelh926 said:
Question:
Let u·v = 5 and u×v = 2i+3j+k. Determine the angle (in degrees to one
decimal place) between the two vectors.

Im not sure on what to do with the equation given since other examples that were done i was given separate equations for u and v

We were told this formula will be used but not sure how to get u and v.
|u x v|=|u||v|sinθ

Thanks in advance to anyone that helps
What is the value of |u x v|? From that you should be able to work out the value of tanθ and then θ without needing to find u or v.

AM
 
What is the value of |u x v|?

so, the value of |u x v|=sqrt(2^+3^+1^)?

then substitute it so it will be |sqrt(2^+3^+1^)|=|u||v|sinθ?
 
Andrew Mason said:
What is the value of |u x v|? From that you should be able to work out the value of tanθ and then θ without needing to find u or v.

AM

so, the value of |u x v|=sqrt(2^+3^+1^)?

then substitute it so it will be |sqrt(2^+3^+1^)|=|u||v|sinθ?
 
Michaelh926 said:
so, the value of |u x v|=sqrt(2^+3^+1^)?

then substitute it so it will be |sqrt(2^+3^+1^)|=|u||v|sinθ?

You're missing the exponents of 2 (squares), but yes.

Now find a similar expression for the dot product, divide and form a simple trig equation.
 
Curious3141 said:
You're missing the exponents of 2 (squares), but yes.

Now find a similar expression for the dot product, divide and form a simple trig equation.
Sorry, forgot to put the exponents in.

So will this be what it comes to...
sinθ=sqrt(14)/5 then solve for theta?
 
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Michaelh926 said:
Sorry, forgot to put the exponents in.

So will this be what it comes to...
sinθ=sqrt(14)/5 then solve for theta?
Not quite. You said:

(1) uvsinθ = √14

(2) uvcosθ = 5


Solve for θ.

AM
 
Michaelh926 said:
Sorry, forgot to put the exponents in.

So will this be what it comes to...
sinθ=sqrt(14)/5 then solve for theta?

No. Isn't there a cos θ in the definition of the dot product?

Andrew Mason's post gives you the equations you should divide.
 
Curious3141 said:
No. Isn't there a cos θ in the definition of the dot product?

Andrew Mason's post gives you the equations you should divide.

so is it

√14/sinθ=5/cosθ
tanθ=√14/5
θ=arctan(√14/5)?
 
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Michaelh926 said:
so is it

√14/sinθ=5/cosθ
tanθ=√14/5
θ=arctan(√14/5)?

Yes.
 
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Curious3141 said:
Yes.

:) now i understand it.

thank you to everyone that helped
 

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