How to find the argument of a function?

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The discussion revolves around determining the argument of the function ##V(f) = A \tau sinc(f \tau)##, specifically exploring the conditions under which the argument can be 0º, +180º, or -180º. Participants are examining the properties of the sinc function and its implications on the argument.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the behavior of the sinc function and its graphical representation, questioning how the function's values relate to its argument. Some participants suggest analyzing the sinc function analytically and considering the properties of the sine function to aid in understanding.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the function's amplitude and its graphical representation. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the argument and its relationship to the function's behavior, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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The original poster expresses a lack of formal education in the subject, indicating a desire to learn independently. This context may influence the depth of the questions and the nature of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


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For the function ##V(f) = A \tau sinc(f \tau)## in the picture how do you conclude that the argument of ##V(f)## is 0º, +180º or -180º?

Homework Equations


##arg = arctan({\frac{Im}{Re}})##

The Attempt at a Solution


The upper graphic represents the absolute value of the function, right? I understand that being a sinc function the negative parts of the graphic should "jump" to the positive side. I also understand why the function return 0 on k/τ.
Is it correct to think, for example, between 1/τ and 2/τ the sinc function returns negative values but because it needs to shift to the positive values the fase should be negative so that negative times negative = positive?
I'm so sorry if this questions sounds too basic. I'm trying to learn by myself, I'm not attending any classes and I have no one to ask this kind of doubts.
Thanks in advance.
 
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Write analytical ##sinc()## function and think about ##sin()## that you know much better.
 
##sinc(x) = {\frac{\sin(\pi x)}{\pi x}}##

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The ##sin()## is positive between ##-2 \pi## and ##- \pi## and between ##0## and ##\pi## and is negative between ##- \pi## and ##0## and between ##\pi## and ##2 \pi##...
 
On your function the argument is ##ft## so ##f=\pi##. What must be ##Α## in your function?
 
##A## represents the amplitude of the function, the value that the function return when ##x = 0##
 
I think ##A## has only a sign. The second diagram is a step function. Make some diagrams.
 

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