How to Find the Canonical Partition Function for Two Quantum Particles?

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The discussion revolves around finding the canonical partition function for a system of two quantum particles, each having two quantum states: one with zero energy and one with energy ε>0. The cases considered include distinguishable particles, indistinguishable bosons, and indistinguishable fermions.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to outline the possible microstates for each case and calculate the partition function, expressing confusion particularly with indistinguishable particles.
  • Some participants question the validity of using a specific expression for the partition function in the cases of indistinguishable particles and suggest using a more fundamental expression instead.
  • There is exploration of the total energy of microstates and how it relates to the partition function for fermions, with references to the Pauli Exclusion Principle.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering guidance on the correct expressions for the partition function in different scenarios. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's reasoning, indicating some productive direction in understanding the problem, though no consensus has been reached on the final outcomes.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the treatment of indistinguishable particles requires careful consideration of microstates and energy levels, and there is a recognition of the limitations imposed by the Pauli Exclusion Principle for fermions.

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Homework Statement


Consider a system of two quantum particles. Each particle has two quantum states, one with zero energy and one with energy ε>0. For each of the three cases, draw a table of the possible microstates α of the system, and find the canonical partition function Z(β).

a)The two particles are distinguishable

b) The two particles are indistinguishable bosons

c) The two particles are indistinguishable fermions

Homework Equations


Z(\beta,N)=\prod_{i=1}^{N}\sum_{E_{i}=0,\varepsilon} e^{-\beta E_{i}}=(1+e^{-\beta \varepsilon})^{N}

The Attempt at a Solution


a) The four states are pretty simple, they're {AB, 0}, {A, B}, {B, A}, {0, AB}. The partition function is also equally simple, being just Z(\beta, N) = (1+e^{-\beta \varepsilon})^{2}

b) This is where I get lost. The states are also pretty simple, being {AA, 0} {A, A}, {0, AA}. But the partition function is where I don't really understand how to proceed.

c) I get lost even worse here. The only possible state for this one is {A, A}. Again, the partition function is what gets me.

Thanks in advance for any possible help
 
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RawrSpoon said:
Z(\beta,N)=\prod_{i=1}^{N}\sum_{E_{i}=0,\varepsilon} e^{-\beta E_{i}}=(1+e^{-\beta \varepsilon})^{N}
This way of expressing ##Z## is not valid for parts (b) and (c) where the particles are indistinguishable.

For parts (b) and (c), use the more fundamental expression $$Z=\sum_i e^{-\beta E_{i}}$$ where the sum is over all possible microstates of the two-particle system. Here, ##i## labels the microstates and ##E_i## is the energy of the ##i^{\rm th}## microstate.
 
TSny said:
This way of expressing ##Z## is not valid for parts (b) and (c) where the particles are indistinguishable.

For parts (b) and (c), use the more fundamental expression $$Z=\sum_i e^{-\beta E_{i}}$$ where the sum is over all possible microstates of the two-particle system. Here, ##i## labels the microstates and ##E_i## is the energy of the ##i^{\rm th}## microstate.
Ok so then Z(\beta , N) = \sum_i e^{-\beta E_{i}} = (e^{-\beta (0)})+(e^{-\beta \varepsilon})+(e^{-2 \beta \varepsilon})

I assume that E_{i} is the total energy of each microstate, so given the microstates {AA,0}{A,A}{0,AA} I assume the energy is 0, \varepsilon, and 2 \varepsilon

Is this headed in the right direction or am I just totally off-base? I appreciate the responses :)
 
RawrSpoon said:
Ok so then Z(\beta , N) = \sum_i e^{-\beta E_{i}} = (e^{-\beta (0)})+(e^{-\beta \varepsilon})+(e^{-2 \beta \varepsilon})

I assume that E_{i} is the total energy of each microstate, so given the microstates {AA,0}{A,A}{0,AA} I assume the energy is 0, \varepsilon, and 2 \varepsilon

Is this headed in the right direction or am I just totally off-base? I appreciate the responses :)
That looks right.
 
TSny said:
That looks right.
Ahhhh it makes sense now. The reason the distinguishable particles is Z(\beta , 2) = (1+e^{-\beta \varepsilon})^{2} is because expanding the expression gives two different states where E_{i}=\varepsilon right? That means that for fermions, Z=e^{-\beta \varepsilon} since E_{i} can ONLY be \varepsilon due to the Pauli Exclusion Principle. I think I get it now, thanks!
 
RawrSpoon said:
Ahhhh it makes sense now. The reason the distinguishable particles is Z(\beta , 2) = (1+e^{-\beta \varepsilon})^{2} is because expanding the expression gives two different states where E_{i}=\varepsilon right?
Yes, that's correct.

That means that for fermions, Z=e^{-\beta \varepsilon} since E_{i} can ONLY be \varepsilon due to the Pauli Exclusion Principle.
Right. For this case, the system can only be in one state. So, you already know everything about the system. The partition function doesn't serve any purpose as far as I can see. It's just an academic exercise.
 

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