Partition Function for N Quantum Oscillators

In summary, the conversation is about finding the partition function for a Quantum Harmonic Oscillator with energy levels and then extending it to a system of N oscillators. The equations ZN = (ZN)/N! and ZN = ZN are discussed, but there is confusion about their applicability in the context of distinguishable and indistinguishable particles. The individual seeking help has searched for sources and tried to reason through the problem, but is still unsure of the correct solution. There is also discussion about the possibility of overthinking the problem and the potential for over-counting states with the same energy level distributions.
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Daniel Sellers
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Homework Statement


For 300 level Statistical Mechanics, we are asked to find the partition function for a Quantum Harmonic Oscillator with energy levels E(n) = hw(n+1/2). No big deal.

We are then asked to find the partition function N such oscillators. Here I am confused.

Homework Equations



ZN = (ZN)/N! Where Z is the partition function for a single oscillator or particle.

This equation shows up a lot when I look for information on partition functions for N particles, but it seems to only apply when the particles are indistinguishable, non-interacting, and unlikely to occupy the same energy levels, basically an ideal gas. A system of oscillators seems to meet only one of these conditions (indistinguishable).

ZN = ZN

This also shows up a lot but only in the context of distinguishable particles.

The Attempt at a Solution


I have tried to search for as many sources as possible and reason my way through this problem, but I can't come up with an answer in which I am confident.

Can anyone provide an answer and convince me that it is correct? Thanks
 
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Perhaps I'm overthinking this? If the oscillators are allowed to occupy the same energy levels then the partition function (which I understand to be the sum of probabilities of all possible states of the system) would simply be a string of statistical 'and' statements. So I could say that ZN = ZN?

Thoughts? Anyone want to tell me I'm wrong? Is there some subtlety I'm missing involving over-counting states with the same energy level distributions?
 

1. What is a partition function for N quantum oscillators?

A partition function for N quantum oscillators is a mathematical expression used in statistical physics to describe the distribution of energy among a system of oscillators. It takes into account the number of oscillators, their energy levels, and the temperature of the system.

2. How is the partition function calculated?

The partition function is calculated by summing over all possible energy states of the system. For a system of N oscillators, the partition function is given by the product of individual partition functions for each oscillator. This involves taking into account the energy levels and temperature of each oscillator.

3. What is the significance of the partition function in statistical physics?

The partition function is a fundamental concept in statistical physics as it allows us to calculate the thermodynamic properties of a system, such as the average energy and entropy. It also helps in understanding the behavior of systems at different temperatures and the transitions between different energy states.

4. How does the partition function relate to the thermodynamic properties of a system?

The partition function is directly related to the thermodynamic properties of a system. For example, the average energy of a system can be calculated by taking the derivative of the partition function with respect to temperature. The partition function is also used to calculate other properties such as entropy and specific heat.

5. Can the partition function be used for systems other than quantum oscillators?

Yes, the concept of a partition function can be applied to various physical systems, including classical and quantum systems. It is widely used in statistical mechanics to describe the thermodynamic behavior of gases, solids, and other complex systems.

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