How To Find The Factors Of THis Quadratic Equation?

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The discussion revolves around finding the factors of the quadratic equation 3x² - 9x + 4 = 0. Participants explore various methods to approach this problem, including the quadratic formula and completing the square.

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  • Some participants attempt to factor the quadratic directly, while others suggest using the quadratic formula. There are questions regarding whether the goal is to find factors or roots, and the feasibility of obtaining integer coefficients is discussed.

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Participants have provided different methods and insights, including the use of the quadratic formula and completing the square. There is recognition that the roots of the equation may not yield integer factors, and some express uncertainty about the best approach to take.

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There is mention of a discriminant calculation indicating the nature of the roots, which influences the discussion on factorization methods. The original poster's confusion about the methods indicates a need for clarification on the distinction between factors and roots.

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Hi everyone,

Can someone please tell me how to find the factors of the below quadratic equation?

[tex]3x^2 - 9x + 4 = 0[/tex]

I had already tried to find them by using the below method and wasn't able to continue further because of I do not understand.

Huygen

[tex](3x^2 - 7x + 4) -2x = 0[/tex]
[tex](3x-4)(x-1)-2x=0[/tex]
 
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optics.tech said:
Hi everyone,

Can someone please tell me how to find the factors of the below quadratic equation?

[tex]3x^2 - 9x + 4 = 0[/tex]

I had already tried to find them by using the below method and wasn't able to continue further because of I do not understand.

Huygen

[tex](3x^2 - 7x + 4) -2x = 0[/tex]
[tex](3x-4)(x-1)-2x=0[/tex]



Since [itex]\,\Delta:=b^2-4ac=9^2-4\cdot 3\cdot 4=33\,[/itex] , this quadratic's roots are ugly:
[tex]x_{1,2}=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt\Delta}{2a}=\frac{9\pm\sqrt{33}}{6}[/tex] , so we can now factor
[tex]3x^2-9x+4=3\left[x-\left(\frac{9-\sqrt{33}}{6}\right)\right]\left[x-\left(\frac{9+\sqrt{33}}{6}\right)\right][/tex]
Ugly, indeed.

DonAntonio
 
DonAntonio said:
Since [itex]\,\Delta:=b^2-4ac=9^2-4\cdot 3\cdot 4=33\,[/itex] , this quadratic's roots are ugly:
[tex]x_{1,2}=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt\Delta}{2a}=\frac{9\pm\sqrt{33}}{6}[/tex] , so we can now factor
[tex]3x^2-9x+4=3\left[x-\left(\frac{9-\sqrt{33}}{6}\right)\right]\left[x-\left(\frac{9+\sqrt{33}}{6}\right)\right][/tex]
Ugly, indeed.

DonAntonio

No, not this method.

There is available another method than this one.
 
Completing the squares.
 
optics.tech said:
Hi everyone,

Can someone please tell me how to find the factors of the below quadratic equation?

[tex]3x^2 - 9x + 4 = 0[/tex]
Are you looking for the factors, or are you looking for the roots? If you are looking for factors, and they have to have integer coefficients, then you won't find any, as DonAntonio has shown. If you don't want to use the quadratic formula (again, as DonAntonio has shown), you'll need to complete the square, which D H suggested.
 
In comparison, if you use the quadratic formula on the separate quadratic you factorized:

[tex](3x^2 - 7x + 4) -2x = 0[/tex]
[tex](3x-4)(x-1)-2x=0[/tex]

So we're looking at [itex]3x^2-7x+4[/itex] only, then the discriminant

[tex]\Delta=b^2-4ac[/tex][tex]=(-7)^2-4(3)(4)[/tex][tex]=49-48=1[/tex]

and thus since the square root of that is a rational number, then you can factorize the quadratic using only integer coefficients as you've shown.
 
D H said:
Completing the squares.

Yes, you are correct.
 

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