How to find the Inverse of f(x) = 3+x+(e^x)

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The discussion revolves around finding the inverse of the function f(x) = 3 + x + e^x, specifically determining f^-1(4). Participants explore the feasibility of finding the inverse explicitly and the implications of evaluating the function at a specific point.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the nature of finding the inverse and whether it is necessary to derive the full inverse function to solve for a specific value. Questions arise about the complexity of solving equations involving x and e^x, and the implications of the inverse function's existence.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various perspectives on the approach to finding the inverse. Some participants suggest that the problem can be tackled without deriving the entire inverse function, while others emphasize the challenges of extracting x from the equation. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of reasoning have been explored.

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Participants note that the problem may become more complex if the values involved change, and there is an emphasis on understanding the relationship between the function and its inverse rather than focusing solely on the explicit form of the inverse.

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Is it even possible?
 
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Not explicitly, is that the full problem?
 
Well the full problem is:

If f(x) = 3+x+(e^x) , find f^-1(4)

so wouldn't I need to find the inverse first and then plug in 4?
 
No think about what f^(-1)(4) is, it's basically what value of x will give you 4 i.e. solve 3 + x + e^x = 4... there's an obvious value for x.
 
I know the answer is 0 if you just use trial and error or graph it out, but what if the problem was more complex? What I am having trouble with is how do solve for x when you have:

y = x + e^x

What would be the next step? I can't think of any way to extract the x
 
There isn't. That's the whole point of these problems, for you think what f^(-1)(blah) means. In this case it means that blah must be in the range, so they are trying to get you to figure out what it would map to in the domain without knowing explicitly what the formula would be. You COULD have approximated the value using any number of techniques if it wasn't something "nice"
 
You can't in any reasonably simple way. There aren't any standard functions in the book to write the answer with. If you want to find say f^(-1)(3) you just have to use numerical methods to get an approximation.
 
swayze, perhaps it'd be useful to think more simply, ie, what is the relationship of the points between two inverse functions? The question only asks about one particular point, so it's pointless to find out what the entire inverse function is. (Assuming that, since the question asks about an inverse, the inverse exists.)
 

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