How to graph Fc=mv^2/r so that the gradient = velocity

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The discussion centers on the equation Fc = mv^2/r, which describes the motion of a simple pendulum. Participants clarify that the equation is more applicable to circular motion rather than pendulum motion. The most effective graphing approach is to plot Fc against v^2, which yields a straight line where the slope represents m/r. The original question posed is deemed confusing and potentially incorrect, as it conflates concepts of pendulum motion with velocity calculations.

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Homework Statement


Fc = mv^2/r represents the motion of a simple pendulum. Describe how this data could be graphed so that the gradient of a straight line could be used to determine the velocity of the object.

Homework Equations


Fc = mv^2/r

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm kinda stumped. I tried graphing Fc vs r and got nowhere. Kinda attempted @ m =0.5, r =1, Fc = v^2/2 and thus when you derive Fc with respect to v, the gradient function = v, and thus the gradient of any tangent through the curve would give the value of the velocity at that point. Didn't really make sense to me
UPDATE: tried graphing Fc vs v^2 and got a straight line. realized the slope gives m/r. not sure if this is any helpful info but pls need help on the ASAP :) thankssss
 
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Hi Lachtal, :welcome:

Unclear to me what you measured. If you can graph Fc vs v2 it seems to me that you already have the velocity of the object as observations ?
So: what did you vary, what did you measure ?

And "Fc = mv^2/r represents the motion of a simple pendulum" ? More like a circular motion, I would say.
 
Hi, this is an exam question. It was at the end of a practical exam in which we evaluated an experimental value of gravity on Earth using simple pendulum motion. So we found the period of the pendulum and plotted length of string vs period squared; the gradient gave us the experimental value of g. Not sure if this last question was a bit of a mix up by the examiner, which is probable as my teacher isn't the best, but either way that is the question we were given and for the life of me I've no clue of the answer. Also, I am sorry i didnt answer your qn bc quite frankly I am not sure
 
Sounds a lot clearer to me !
For a mathematical pendulum there is an expression for the period as a function of the length. Looks a lot like what you posted, But it seems to me a plot of T2 versus l is more sensible ...
 
yes I have plotted the T^2 vs l, it's just that the this question makes specific reference to the velocity and not gravity... I think it's an incorrect question. Thanks!
 
lachtal9 said:
Fc = mv^2/r represents the motion of a simple pendulum.
It does? That's a bit of a stretch. The motion of the pendulum is governed by the differential equation for its angular displacement.
Your title "How to graph Fc=mv^2/r so that the gradient = velocity"
Isn't quite accurate. It only asks for a graph the gradient of which can be used to find the velocity. If you could plot force against radius for the same mass and speed then you could do that, but this would mean the speed is constant, which it certainly is not for pendulum.

In short, the question is a complete bungle from start to finish.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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