How to Integrate ∫(e^2lnx)(10x)dx?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the expression ∫(e^2lnx)(10x)dx, with participants exploring various approaches to simplify and solve the integral. The focus is primarily on the mathematical manipulation of logarithmic and exponential functions as they relate to integration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in integrating the expression and seeks help, mentioning attempts at substitution and integration by parts.
  • Another participant suggests rewriting e^2ln(x) using properties of logarithms and exponentials, indicating that ln(x) is the inverse function of e^x.
  • A question arises about the simplification of e^2ln(x) to 2x, leading to a discussion on the rules of exponentiation.
  • Participants discuss the identity a^(bc) = (a^b)^c, applying it to the expression e^(2*ln(x)).
  • Clarification is provided that e^(2*ln(x)) simplifies to x^2, correcting earlier misunderstandings about the application of the exponentiation rule.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the simplification of e^(2*ln(x)) to x^2, although there are moments of confusion and correction regarding the application of logarithmic and exponential rules. The discussion remains focused on the manipulation of the expression rather than reaching a final solution for the integral.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the rules of exponentiation and logarithms, indicating a need for clarity in their application. The discussion does not resolve the integration itself, focusing instead on the simplification of the expression.

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Hi everyone,

I just started to study Physics and I have a very simple question about integration. I'm blocked on this for a while. I'm trying to solve a differential equation for which I need to integrate the expression:
∫(e^2lnx)(10x)dx

Does someone can tell me how to do it? I can't find this exact expression in formulas, and I've tried substitution with u = e^2lnx or with u = 2lnx and I've also tried to use ∫u'v = uv - ∫ uv' ... doesn't seem to work. Any idea?

Thanks a lot!
 
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Eeh, are talking about:
[tex]e^{2\ln(x)}[/tex]
In that case, use the fact that ln(x) is the inverse function of e^x
 
Thank you, so e^2ln(x) = 2x?? I know the rule e^lna = a but here it is e^blna that makes me confused. Is the rule here e^(bln(a)) = ba?
 
Think about the following:

How can you rewrite, by rules for exponentiation for real numbers:
[tex](a^{b})^{c}=??[/tex]
 
a^bc of course
 
Of course!
:smile:

So, if you have e^(2*ln(x)), can you utilize the above identity in a clever way to simplify your expression, say by starting with: e^(2*ln(x))=e^(ln(x)*2)
 
so here, it would be (e^2)(e^lnx) = x(e^2), you mean I should just see e^2 as a constant and taking it out of the integration?
 
Wonderland said:
so here, it would be (e^2)(e^lnx) = x(e^2), you mean I should just see e^2 as a constant and taking it out of the integration?
Eeh, no.
Think again.
 
Would it be (e^2)(e^lnx) = x^2? It doesn't seem right...
 
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it would mean that e^blna = a^b
 
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Wonderland said:
it would mean that e^blna = a^b

Yup!
:smile:
 
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Would it be (e^2)(e^lnx) = x^2? It doesn't seem right.
Your LHS is wrong, due to a faulty application of the rule.

e^(2*ln(x))=x^2
 
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Phewww! Thanks!:-):-)
 
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You're welcome!
:smile:
 
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:smile:
 

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