How to Integrate Upper Bounds with Circumscribed Rectangles

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The discussion focuses on integrating the function y=4x from 1 to 5 using the limit with circumscribed rectangles, correcting an initial error in the limits. The correct approach involves using Riemann sums, where the width of each rectangle is delta x_i = (5-2)/n = 3/n. The final integral evaluates to 48, confirmed through both direct integration and Riemann sums. Participants clarified the necessary adjustments in the limits and function evaluations to arrive at the correct answer.

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[SOLVED] Upper Bounds Integration

Homework Statement


Integrate y=4x from 2 to 5 using the limit with circumscribed rectangles.


Homework Equations



A=lim(n to inf.) Summation of f(xsubi) times delta (xsubi)

The Attempt at a Solution



A=lim(4/n)(4/n)(4)(2+3+4+...+(n+1))
=64/n^2((n^2+3n)/2))= 32lim((n+3)/n)) =32. But from integration the answer is obviously 48. What am I doing wrong? (Sorry about lack of typo skills-newbie)
 
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why do you think the answer is obviously 48?
Your answer isn't correct again thout..
 
well i got 42 as my answer, either by directly integrating

\int_2^5 4xdx and also by using Rieman sums.

I'll try to post my work, on my next post.
 
Sorry-wrong limits!

Sorry! The limits were 1 to 5, not 2 to 5!
 
we want to calculate

\lim_{n\to\infty}\sum_{i=1}^{n}f(\epsilon_i)\delta x_i

now let us create n mini segments on the segment [2,5]

that is let the points be

x_0=2,x_1,x_2,...x_i_-_1,x_i,...,x_n=5

Now our concern is to determine what our function will be.
First let's notice certian facts:

\delta x_i=x_i-x_i_-_1 also let \epsilon_i=x_i

this way we have:

\epsilon_i=\delta x_i+x_i_-_1

also: \delta x_i=\frac{5-2}{n}=\frac{3}{n}

Now, for to determine our function let's try some values for i=1,2,3,...

f(x_1)=4\left(\frac{3}{n}+2\right),f(x_2)=4(\frac{6}{n}+2),f(x_3)=4(\frac{9}{n}+2),..., f(x_i)=4(\frac{3i}{n}+2)


Hence:

\int_2^54xdx=\lim_{n\to\infty}\sum_{i=1}^{n}4\left(\frac{3i}{n}+2\right)\frac{3}{n}=...=42
 
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tmclary said:
Sorry! The limits were 1 to 5, not 2 to 5!

Well, then do the same thing as i did here, just take into consideration that you have the lower limit 1, in this case. I am not going to troube to go the same route again, i think you can do it now. If you can't ask again.

cheers!
 
Well it doesn't change a lot by the way, the difference is that now you'll have

\delta x_i=\frac{4}{n} and

f(x_i)=4\left(\frac{4i}{n}+1\right)

and the answer will be 48.
 
Thanks very much for your replies- I'm still stuck expanding the summation- will attempt another query when I have time, and can clarify.
 
Got it- I wasn't adding the 1 to the 4/n. Thanks again for your answer.
 
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tmclary said:
Got it- I wasn't adding the 1 to the 4/n. Thanks again for your answer.

I tried to post a detailed answer, including how the summation expanded and all that stuff, but after i typed it all, i don't know for some crappy reason it did not show up. Anyways, I'm glad you got it !
 

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