How to know which sign of root to take when finding the inverse of a function

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The discussion revolves around finding the inverse of the quadratic function y = 2x^2 - 8x, specifically for the domain x ≥ 2. Participants explore the implications of the function's behavior and the selection of the appropriate root when determining the inverse.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the process of finding the inverse and question how to determine which root to take. There is mention of the function's increasing nature and its graphical representation to aid in understanding.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the behavior of the function and the necessity of considering the domain when selecting the root. There is an ongoing exploration of whether there are general rules for choosing roots in inverse functions, with differing opinions on the applicability of such rules.

Contextual Notes

It is noted that the function does not have a traditional inverse due to its non-one-to-one nature, necessitating a division of the domain for proper analysis. The specific domain constraint of x ≥ 2 is emphasized in relation to the inverse's characteristics.

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Homework Statement


find the inverse of
y=2x^2-8x
x>=2
I am in calculus b but forgot some of the algebra so I am not sure how to treat the root

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I am skipping steps

y=2(x-2)^2-8

(y+8)/2=(x-2)^2
I know that x >=2
so f(2) =-8 and it is increasing so the range is [-8,infinity)
now how can I know which root to take?
 
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As [itex]x\to \infty[/tex], [itex]y\to \infty[/tex] so when you find the inverse, this will still apply since they are images about the y=x line. Now can you see which root you should be taking?[/itex][/itex]
 
yes the positive one ,so is this a general rule for roots in inverse function?
 
Umm no, not necessarily. I just thought of it logically for the inverse of quadratics, so I haven't extended the same idea to other functions.

The best way would be to draw a rough sketch of the quadratic, then draw its inverse by flipping it about the line y=x and go from there. Pictures can really help.
 
What is true here is that, strictly speaking, f does NOT HAVE an inverse. In order to talk about an inverse for a function that is not one-to-one, you have to divide the domain into pieces, taking a different inverse for each "piece".

Here, [itex]y= 2x^2- 8x[/itex] and it is easy to see that its graph is a parabola, opening upward with vertex at (2, -8). We would need to divide this into two functions,
[itex]y= 2x^2- 8x[/itex] for [itex]x\le 2[/itex] and [itex]y= 2x^2- 8x[/itex] for [itex]x\ge 2[/itex]. Because your problem said "[itex]x\ge 2[/itex]" you are talking about the second.

To find the inverse, swap x and y to get [itex]x= 2y^2- 8y[/itex] and solve for y, perhaps by completing the square:
[tex]x= 2(y^2- 4y)= 2(y^2- 4y+ 4- 4)= 2(y- 2)^2- 8[/tex]
[tex]2(y- 2)^2= x+ 8[/tex]
[tex](y- 2)^2= \frac{x+ 8}{2}[/tex]
[tex]y- 2= \sqrt{\frac{x+8}{2}}[/tex]
[tex]y= 2+ \sqrt{\frac{x+8}{2}}[/tex]

How do I know to take the positive root? Because [itex]x\ge 2[/itex], after "swapping" x and y, became [itex]y\ge 2[/itex]. It is the positive root that makes y greater than or equal to 2. Taking the negative root, y would be "2 minus something".
 
HallsofIvy said:
How do I know to take the positive root? Because [itex]x\ge 2[/itex], after "swapping" x and y, became [itex]y\ge 2[/itex]. It is the positive root that makes y greater than or equal to 2. Taking the negative root, y would be "2 minus something".

Ahh good point.
 

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