How to Maximize a Nonlinear Function with Limited Variables?

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The discussion revolves around optimizing a nonlinear function involving a summation index, i, which is related to a variable x. Participants express confusion over the relationship between i and x, emphasizing that i should be an integer index starting from a defined value, while x is a real number. Suggestions include rewriting the function to eliminate i's dependence on x and using known summation formulas to simplify the optimization process. The conversation highlights the importance of clearly defining variables and constraints for effective optimization. Overall, the thread emphasizes the need for clarity in mathematical expressions to facilitate problem-solving.
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Hi to everyone,

I'm optimizing a nonlinear function but I'm struggling to achieve it. The function is the following:
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X and i are relationed so i doesn't go to infinite. Do you have any idea how to maximize this function?

Thanks in advance,

Eric
 
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What do you mean by "related"? i is a summation index, not a free variable. The starting value is missing.

The sum has an explicit formula, this should be easy to simplify.
 
ericdavid said:
Hi to everyone,

I'm optimizing a nonlinear function but I'm struggling to achieve it. The function is the following:
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X and i are relationed so i doesn't go to infinite.
What does this mean? Your summation appears to be from i = <something> to ##\infty##.
ericdavid said:
Do you have any idea how to maximize this function?
The summation in the formula for F(x) is unclear. Is this what you have in mind for the summation?
$$\sum_{i = 0}^{\infty}e^{-i(x + 2)}$$
 
Yes, it is from i to ∞, but if I want to optimize it I guess that I will have to set a bound.
And yes, the summation corresponds to what you have posted. Let's say that i is related to x as follows: i=T/x, T is a time. Therefore, x determines i.
 
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How can the summation index (i) start at i?
 
ericdavid said:
Yes, it is from i to ∞,
This makes no sense -- "from i to ∞". i is merely the index. You have to give a starting value, such as 0 or 1 or whatever, and an ending value, such as 10 or N or ∞.
ericdavid said:
but if I want to optimize it I guess that I will have to set a bound.
And yes, the summation corresponds to what you have posted. Let's say that i is related to x as follows: i=T/x, T is a time. Therefore, x determines i.
This also makes no sense. x is presumably a real number, and a summation index is usually an integer.

The summation that I wrote can be expanded like so:
##1 + e^{-(x + 2)} + e^{-2(x + 2)} + e^{-3(x + 2)} + \dots##

It's not at all clear to me or the other people replying in this thread what you're trying to do.
 
Apologies, I wanted to say that it goes from i=1 to inifinite. I will reformulate my question so you can understand it better.
I want to maximize this function:

Sin título.jpg

And x is related to i as follows; i=T/x, where T is a constant. Due to the nature of the problem, i is an integer.

Thanks for your patience.

Eric
 
ericdavid said:
And x is related to i as follows; i=T/x, where T is a constant.
This still doesn't make sense. i is an index of the summation, and x occurs outside the summation (as well as being part of the things being summed).
i takes on an infinite number of values: 1, 2, 3, ... in the summation, but the x that multiplies the summation can't change with the change in index values.

Based on what you said, you can write the summation as ##\sum_{i = 1}^{\infty}e^{-i(T/i + 2)}##, but you can't replace either x outside the summation by T/i.

It seems that you're trying to come up with a formula for a function that involves a summation, without understanding how a summation works.
 
If we forget about the relationship between i and T, how would you optimize it?
 
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ericdavid said:
I'm optimizing a nonlinear function

Your question is related to find the max of this function "in general" or with constraints ?
I don't understand well how this function is defined, ##i## is the integer index in the sum but what about ##x##?, is real or integer? Has this function a domain?
If it is a real function try with the derivative...

Ssnow
 
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ericdavid said:
If that is your function, it is identical to (just a different notation)
$$F(x)=\frac{1}{x+x \left( e^{-1(x+2)} + e^{-2(x+2)} + e^{-3(x+2)} + ... \right)}$$
You see how i disappears just by rewriting it? i cannot depend on anything.

You can use$$\sum_{i=1}^\infty e^{-i(x+2)} = \sum_{i=1}^\infty \left(e^{-(x+2)}\right)^i$$
The sum on the right (a sum over qi for some q) can be evaluated with a well-known formula.

Afterwards, you can use that a maximum of your function (which does not occur at 0) is a minimum of the inverse, 1/F(x). From there it should not be hard to look for minima.
 
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Ssnow said:
Your question is related to find the max of this function "in general" or with constraints ?
I don't understand well how this function is defined, ##i## is the integer index in the sum but what about ##x##?, is real or integer? Has this function a domain?
If it is a real function try with the derivative...

Ssnow
Hi Ssnow,

x is a real, I'm working on a domain and i do not have any constrains more.
 
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Hi, ok thanks for the clarification, I suggest you to follow the suggestions of @mfb.
 
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mfb said:
If that is your function, it is identical to (just a different notation)
$$F(x)=\frac{1}{x+x \left( e^{-1(x+2)} + e^{-2(x+2)} + e^{-3(x+2)} + ... \right)}$$
You see how i disappears just by rewriting it? i cannot depend on anything.

You can use$$\sum_{i=1}^\infty e^{-i(x+2)} = \sum_{i=1}^\infty \left(e^{-(x+2)}\right)^i$$
The sum on the right (a sum over qi for some q) can be evaluated with a well-known formula.

Afterwards, you can use that a maximum of your function (which does not occur at 0) is a minimum of the inverse, 1/F(x). From there it should not be hard to look for minima.
Thanks for your advice, so far the best I've received.

Can I use this formula?
Sin título.png


By the way, how do you introduce formulas in this forum?
 
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You can use this formula, to take the limit n->infinity you have to check if z is in the correct range for that.

You can use LaTeX for formulas. The quote in your post has two examples.
 
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In this formula, the summaton begins at i=0, while in my case it's i=1. How can I solve that?

Thanks
 
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You can replace i by i+1 everywhere (!) in your expression, then simplify.

There is a German Wikipedia article about - no English version, but the formulas are international.
 
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In fact, my function is this one:

Sin título.png


I posted a simplified one before, can I still express this one with a well-known formula?

Thanks
 
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No.

Where was the point of the other function if that is not what you actually want to solve?
 

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