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How to notate a variable that is being held constant

  1. May 30, 2013 #1
    I remember learning at one point that you can put some sort of symbol on top or near a variable to indicate that it is being held constant. I thought that it was just a bar drawn above the variable but in some cases, it means "the average of."

    Anyone know what I'm talking about?
     
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  3. May 30, 2013 #2
    Do you mean that, when taking a partial derivative and want to specifically keep t constant, you can write, for example, ##\left(\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\right)_t##?
     
  4. May 30, 2013 #3
    No, I mean something much simpler. It's a symbol or notation that you'd use as you're explaining how variables will change relative to each other.

    Here's a very simple example using the equation d=vt (distance = speed*time):

    Say I want to hold the speed at a constant value; I now know that by increasing the amount of time, I'll increase the value of the distance by a proportionate amount. My question involves a short-hand symbol for indicating that the speed is the variable that's being held constant, instead of wasting time writing out "___ is constant" everytime I'm discussing an equation.
     
  5. May 30, 2013 #4
    In spreadsheet programs like excel this is done by putting '$' '$' around the variable, though I doubt that's what you're looking for.

    Do you mean just saying:
    ##D= \frac{v}{t} \rightarrow D= \frac{v_1}{t}##? Because that sort of does it.
     
  6. May 30, 2013 #5

    That's more like it, but not exactly what I had in mind.

    It's such a dumb little thing but it's driving me nuts.

    Thanks for the reply
     
  7. May 30, 2013 #6
    What class was it? That might help?
     
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  9. May 30, 2013 #8
    It's not for a specific class. I tutor for math and physics and there are times when I want to denote which variable in the equation is being held constant for the sake of discussing how the other variables effect each other.

    I remember a math (or science) teacher I had in high school making a mark near the variable that would be held constant.
     
  10. May 30, 2013 #9

    Mute

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    I'm not familiar with any standard notation that denotes what you want. You could make one up for the students you are tutoring, but let them know it's not a notation they're likely to see elsewhere.

    You could say something like "let d = x(t) = vt", where the function notation x(t) explicitly denotes that t is the variable. If the students need a mark to remind them which symbols are constants, function notation may at first be confusing for them, but it's a notation they will likely see again in the future.
     
  11. May 31, 2013 #10

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    If you are talking about the distinction between "dependent variables" and "independent variables", I am not familiar with any specific notation, but there is a common convention of formulating equations so that the dependent variable goes on the left and the independent variable or variables go on the right.
     
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