How to prove by mathematical induction?

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The discussion revolves around the process of proving mathematical statements using mathematical induction. Participants seek clarification on the method, share their attempts, and express confusion regarding the steps involved in the induction process.

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  • One participant asks for examples and resources to understand mathematical induction, indicating a lack of clarity on the topic.
  • Another participant suggests that a search engine might provide quicker answers than starting a new thread, implying that the information is readily available online.
  • A participant expresses frustration with conflicting information found in various resources, indicating a struggle to grasp the concept.
  • One participant shares their specific equation and outlines their process for proving it by induction, detailing their steps and where they encountered difficulties.
  • Another participant provides a structured approach to the induction proof, demonstrating the base case and the inductive step, but does not clarify the confusion expressed by the original poster.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the clarity of the induction process, as some express confusion while others attempt to provide guidance. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the original poster's understanding of mathematical induction.

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There are limitations in the clarity of the original poster's confusion, as well as the potential for misunderstanding the steps involved in the induction process. The mathematical expressions and reasoning presented may depend on specific interpretations or definitions that are not fully articulated.

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How do I prove a formula/rule or something by mathematical induction? Please give me a few examples or resources and explain it as best you can because I think I'm messing up some how.
 
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What are you not getting, exactly? If you just don't know what induction is, surely a google search would be faster than starting a new thread.
 
Everything I read confuses me, it tells me to do something different everytime...
 
James2 said:
Everything I read confuses me, it tells me to do something different everytime...

We can't help you if you don't explain what's confusing you. Try posting your attempt at solving an induction problem and explain where you get stuck.
 
I have an equation, (5n + 2) = 2[(5/2)n + 1] I know this is true from the basis step. Then I asume n = k now I must prove n = k + 1. So, (5k + 2) = 2[(5/2)k + 1]

Alright then, I try to substitute k + 1 in and add it or something so I get... 2[(5/2)k + 1] + [5(k + 1) + 2] = 2 [(5/2)(k + 1) + 1]

Simplifying, I get 10k + 2 + 5k + 5 + 2 = 10(k + 1) + 2

And finallly, 15k + 9 =/= 10k + 12

SO... whaaaat? What happened here?
 
(5n + 2) = 2[(5/2)n + 1]

n = 0:
5*0 + 2 = 2[(5/2)*0 + 1]

The case is true for 0.

Suppose the case is true for n = k.
Now we can use (5k + 2) = 2[(5/2)k + 1].

n = k + 1:
5(k + 1) + 2 = (5k + 2) + 5 = 2[(5/2)k + 1] + 5 = 2[(5/2)k + 1 + 5/2] = 2[(5/2)(k+1) + 1]

The case n = k + 1 follows from the case n = k.
With case n = 0 true the equation therefore works for all non-negative integers.
 

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