How to prove that this function is a surjection?

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To prove that the function is a surjection, it is necessary to demonstrate that for any positive integer p, there exist positive integers m and n such that the equation 1/2(m+n−2)(m+n−1)+n=p holds true. The discussion highlights the challenge of extending the proof from a single variable to two variables, suggesting that fixing one variable may help in finding solutions for p. Visualizing the function through sketches can clarify its behavior and assist in identifying explicit values for m and n. The definition of surjection and injection for functions of two variables is also emphasized, reinforcing the need for a comprehensive understanding of these concepts. Overall, the focus is on establishing the surjective nature of the function through systematic exploration and visualization.
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If f were a function of 1 variable only, then this would be straight forward as I can try to find its inverse by reversing the operations defined in f. I know I need to show that for any given positive integer,p, there exists two positive integers, m and n such that 1/2(m+n−2)(m+n−1)+n=p. However, I am not so sure what to do in the case of two variables. Do I have to show that if I assume that if m or n are some fixed positive integer, then there is a solution for p?

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Did you draw a sketch? That should make clear how the function "works". With that you can also find explicit n,m for every p if you want.
 
Anezka said:
If f were a function of 1 variable only, then this would be straight forward as I can try to find its inverse by reversing the operations defined in f. I know I need to show that for any given positive integer,p, there exists two positive integers, m and n such that 1/2(m+n−2)(m+n−1)+n=p. However, I am not so sure what to do in the case of two variables. Do I have to show that if I assume that if m or n are some fixed positive integer, then there is a solution for p?

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Did anyone ever mention that your ##n## looks very similar to your ##m##?

Anyway, the definition of a bijection for a function, ##f##, of two variables is:

1) ##f## is a surjection: ##\forall \ p, \ \exists m, n \ ## such that ##f(m, n) = p##
2) ##f## is an injection: ##f(n_1, m_1) = f(n_2, m_2) \ \Rightarrow \ n_1 = n_2 \ ## and ##m_1 = m_2##
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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