How to Prove Vector Identity Using Levi-Civita Notation?

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The discussion revolves around proving a vector identity using Levi-Civita notation, specifically the expression involving the vector field B and its derivatives. The participants are exploring the mathematical representation of the identity and its components.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the mathematical notation and components of the vector identity. Questions arise regarding the nature of the left and right sides of the equation, particularly whether they represent vectors or scalars. Some participants suggest using Einstein summation notation and Levi-Civita notation to express the identity.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's interpretations and clarifications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of notation and the components of the vectors involved. Multiple interpretations of the equation are being explored, particularly concerning the vector and scalar nature of the expressions.

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There is mention of a reference to a proof from Jackson, indicating that the participants are working within the constraints of established literature. The need to use specific notation (Levi-Civita) is emphasized, and there are indications of confusion regarding the equality of the expressions involved.

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I need to prove B.(Gradient . B) - B X(Gradient X B)=Del{i} [B{i}B{j} -1/2 (kroneker delta {ij} B^2]

where I have used . as the dot product, {} as subscript. Thank you!
 
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If I write the left hand side using proper math symbols, is
$$
\mathbf{B} (\nabla \cdot \mathbf{B}) - \mathbf{B} \times (\nabla \times \mathbf{B})
$$
correct?
 
Hi Blue_leaf77,

Yes that is correct! Thank you, I am sorry I typed it so poorly I am new to Physics forums.
 
Then the equality in the original equation does not make sense because the left side is a vector whereas the right side is a scalar.
 
The right is still a vector, I have Bolded the vector quantities B.
 
This is essentially a proof from Jackson. But I need to show it with levi Cevita notation.
 
hellomynameisscottt said:
The right is still a vector, I have Bolded the vector quantities B.
No, it's not. For instance you have ##|\mathbf{B}|^2## which is a scalar.
 
I have uploaded the page from Jackson it is equation (6.119) I am trying to prove, however I must use Levi Cevita notation.
 

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I see, the left side should be ##[\mathbf{B} (\nabla \cdot \mathbf{B}) - \mathbf{B} \times (\nabla \times \mathbf{B})]_i## which is the i-th component of the vector inside the square bracket and this is a scalar. Start by writing ##\nabla\cdot \mathbf{B}## using Einstein summation notation. Anyway if you have progressed up to any point, just post it here, preferably using LaTex.
 
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hellomynameisscottt said:
I need to prove B.(Gradient . B) - B X(Gradient X B)=Del{i} [B{i}B{j} -1/2 (kroneker delta {ij} B^2]

where I have used . as the dot product, {} as subscript. Thank you!
You will need to use that the i-th component of a cross product may be written as
## (\vec{A} \times \vec{B})_i = \epsilon_{ijk} A_j B_k ##

and you will need to find the expression for a triple product...hint: what is the following expression equal to?
## \sum_i \epsilon_{ijk} \epsilon_{iab} = ? ##
 

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