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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around techniques for achieving relaxation in sports, particularly in table tennis and tennis. Participants explore the relationship between muscle relaxation and performance, especially in competitive settings.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that relaxation of muscles is essential for executing whip shots in table tennis and proposes that hip and butt muscles control overall body movement.
  • Another participant challenges the idea that muscles can be completely relaxed while standing, arguing that stability requires muscle tension.
  • Some participants introduce humor and personal anecdotes about using alcohol as a means to relax, although this is not directly related to the sports context.
  • A participant expresses concern about tightening up during tournaments, suggesting that mental state plays a role in physical relaxation and performance.
  • Another participant offers advice on using hip rotation to achieve a smoother shot, indicating a potential physical solution to the relaxation issue.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the best methods for achieving relaxation in sports. Participants express differing views on the role of muscle tension and relaxation, as well as the impact of mental state during competition.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about muscle control and relaxation are not universally accepted, and there are unresolved questions regarding the interplay between physical techniques and mental state in competitive environments.

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In my experience, whip provides the most speed/spin in table tennis...you don't have to be a tt pro to answer this question though...

Now, the issue is, inorder to whip, we need to keep our muscles relaxed...meaning, to sprint, our leg muscles, to swing, our arm muscles and torso...etc...the point is...in a workshop, I learned that hip/butt muscles control all of these, therefore, just by rotating them, you can jerk and control your whole body in a very precise and accurate manner...but the problem remains...even those muscles are not completely relaxed...therefore, how do I make 'em?

I know that by practice, I can...but I was looking for something quicker...and I found one too...when I play tennis, I automatically start using more muscles in a more relaxed manner b/c more momentum is REQUIRED...and therefore, right after swinging some tennis ball, when I swing ping pong ball...this is very easy...however, it will be such a hastle to have to play tennis inorder to play table tennis...(I do like both) But the crisis seems to be that fundamental strokes for both of these sports contradict each other in such a manner that it is actually NOT recommended to play both in the same season(if you are professional...which I am) So what should I do?

Thank you.
 
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Skhandelwal said:
Now, the issue is, inorder to whip, we need to keep our muscles relaxed...meaning, to sprint, our leg muscles, to swing, our arm muscles and torso...etc...the point is...in a workshop, I learned that hip/butt muscles control all of these, therefore, just by rotating them, you can jerk and control your whole body in a very precise and accurate manner...but the problem remains...even those muscles are not completely relaxed...therefore, how do I make 'em?

If you're standing, you cannot keep all those muscles relaxed. They are required to maintain stability of your hips to stand up. If they were completely relaxed, you'd fall down.

I have no idea what a "whip" is in table tennis. While sprinting, your leg muscles are anything but relaxed. Your hip/butt (also known as gluteal) muscles are not going to control your whole body, and muscles don't "rotate."

So, to put it simply, nothing you've asked makes any sense.
 
For any situation requiring relaxation, my weapon is Scotch.
 
Gee danger - in another thread you mentioned beer. You should get your story straight.
However, danger's answer makes sense to a question that I don't understand at all.
Wish I could have thought of it.
 
Danger said:
For any situation requiring relaxation, my weapon is Scotch.

Yep, as I already stated, if all those muscles are relaxed, you fall down. I have the same response if I consume a lot of scotch. :biggrin:
 
jim mcnamara said:
Gee danger - in another thread you mentioned beer. You should get your story straight.

No conflicting statements. Beer is my 'party-mood' or everyday beverage. Scotch/water heavy ice is a laid-back drink, or a couple of ounces as a shooter if I'm having trouble sleeping. I also love tequila.

moonbear said:
Yep, as I already stated, if all those muscles are relaxed, you fall down. I have the same response if I consume a lot of scotch.
Then may I offer you a Scotch, my dear. I don't fall down...
 
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Scotch doesn't work in table tennis. Only works in under the table tennis.
 
Dammit, Greg... I want a <groan> smilie right now!
 
So my question is...when I play in tournament...my body tightens up and I can't seem to play my whip shots...etc...how do I relax it?
 
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Skhandelwal said:
So my question is...when I play in tournament...my body tightens up and I can't seem to play my whip shots...etc...how do I relax it?

That's a question about mental state I think. If you're tensing up with the excitement of competition, you just have to calm yourself enough to relax. I guess practice against someone equally competitive. Athletes "choke" all the time, and it's a mental issue in the competitive environment, not a physical one.
 
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but here are a few tips I found which made me think that can be solved by physical means as well...you see, he told me that any muscle you try to use...will get tense b/c you will fear weather I can make this shot or not...but if you rotate your hips and by that force jerk your torso, and through that whip your shoulders...you can have a completely smooth, natural, and powerful shot in table tennis...

So since I found one advice to help me...I am just trying to find more...
 

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