How to Represent |+x> and |-x> Using |+y> and |-y> as Basis?

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The discussion revolves around representing quantum states |+x> and |-x> using the basis states |+y> and |-y>. The context is within quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on spin-1/2 particles and their representations in different bases.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the transformation of states from one basis to another, questioning how to eliminate the |+z> and |-z> states in favor of |+y> and |-y>. There is also a discussion about the definitions and relationships of the basis states and their corresponding spin operators.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and references to the original equations and concepts, while others express confusion regarding the definitions and the process of transitioning between bases. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the representation of states and the implications of phase factors.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of clarity regarding the definitions of the basis states and their relationships to the spin operators, indicating a potential gap in understanding that may affect the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Determine the column vectors representing the states |+x> and |-x> using the states |+y> and |-y> as a basis.


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The hint my prof gave us was that since |+x> = 1/√2|+z> + 1/√2|-z> we can eliminate the states |+z> and |-z> in favor of |+y> and |-y>

I'm just lost I guess, I'm not sure how to eliminate the z states in favor of y. Any further hint or suggestion would be much appreciated.
 
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Think about where |+x> = 1/√2|+z> + 1/√2|-z> came from, and what exactly you mean by |+x>, |-x>, |+y>, |-y>, |+z>, and |-z>.

I assume you're talking about spin 1/2. You never really said.
 
yes, spin 1/2 particles.

The book we're using is Townsend, A Modern Approach to QM. The book starts with spin 1/2 particles and examination of the Stern-Gerlach experiment.

When it's talking about finding the constants (e.g. 1/√2) it says one solution is to choose c+ and c- to be real, namely c+=1/√2 and c-=1/√2, the more general solution for c+ and c- may be written
c+=ei\delta<sub>+</sub>/√2 and
c-=ei\delta<sub>+</sub>/√2

where \delta<sub>+</sub> and \delta<sub>-</sub> are real phases that allow for the possibility that c+ and c- are complex.

That said, can i just name |+x> in the y basis similarly to it was in the z basis?
It seems kinda vague to me.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by "just name |+x> in the y basis similarly to it was in the z basis". There are precise definitions to the basis vectors. Do you know what they are?
 
no, apparently i do not.
 
What's their relation to the spin operators Sx, Sy, and Sz?
 

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