How to select the best hotel location for a week-long stay?

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The discussion revolves around selecting the optimal hotel location for a week-long stay in a foreign country, focusing on minimizing travel time or distance to multiple points of interest. Participants explore various methods and considerations for determining the best location based on travel dynamics and mathematical modeling.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the best hotel location depends on the travel objectives, such as minimizing total travel time or distance.
  • Another participant proposes using Google Maps to calculate distances from a central location, identified as the centroid of the points of interest.
  • A participant notes that real-world driving conditions may affect the accuracy of using the centroid as a reference point, as roads do not follow straight lines.
  • Concerns are raised about the possibility of finding a better location than the centroid, questioning how to verify if an alternative location could reduce travel distances to certain points without significantly increasing others.
  • Participants discuss the potential for expressing the problem mathematically, considering the formulation of a continuous function to analyze distances.
  • Links to external resources on facility location problems are shared, indicating the complexity of the issue.
  • A participant expresses concern over the problem being classified as 'NP hard', indicating the computational difficulty involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for selecting a hotel location, with multiple competing views and considerations remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of travel dynamics and the potential limitations of using simple geometric approaches in real-world scenarios. There are unresolved assumptions regarding the nature of travel distances and times.

Who May Find This Useful

Travelers planning extended stays in foreign locations, researchers interested in optimization problems, and individuals exploring mathematical modeling of travel dynamics.

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Suppose you plan to visit a region in a foreign country, and you need to decide where to stay.
You're going to stay for a week, and don't fancy moving from town to town with your luggage.
So you prefer to find a hotel in one appropriately chosen location, and you'll do round-trips to the places you want to visit each day.

My question is: what's the best way to select the hotel location?

I guess the answer depends on what objective you want to achieve.
For instance, you may want to minimise the time spent traveling or the distance travelled; and that either on a daily basis or on the total over your stay (if it makes a difference, which I'm not sure about).

Suppose the places you want to visit are 5 points on the map.
Assume that for any point X on the map corresponding to a hotel you can easily calculate the shortest travel time and road distance to each of the 5 places.

How would you go about estimating the 'best' X?
Would you start from the centroid of the 5 points and optimise from there?
Is the best X necessarily only one, or could one find multiple ones?
Can the best X be close (in time or space) to most places and far from one or two of them, or is it always going to be 'centrally' located?
Do you know if there is already an algorithm that does this, for instance in GPS navigation systems?

Thank you!
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Why not use google maps to get the distance to each location from some hotel location in the middle of the five points?
 
Sure, that's what I considered initially, the 'middle' being the centroid of the 5 points (i.e. the point with coordinates equal to the average of the coordinates of the 5 points on each axis).
Obviously though, we don't move in horizontal straight lines when we drive on a real landscape, so the 'middle' could be much more distant -in terms of actual road- from one of the points than from the other 4, for instance. And depending on the type of road, the same distance could take different times to cover.

Also, say that after doing the calculation you suggest using Google, you discover that the distances are the following:
X to P1 = 10
X to P2 = 13
X to P3 = 9
X to P4 = 18
X to P5 = 12

How do you know if there is no 'better' X, for instance an X where X to P4 gets shorter, without increasing too much the other 4 distances?
What is the next step you take to verify this?
And can the problem be expressed using a single continuous function over a given domain, so one can look at the absolute and relative extremes, etc?

I understand that the problem is somewhat vaguely formulated. I'll think about it and see if I can express it more clearly.
I'm just wondering if there is already a mathematical theory about this kind of situations.
 
Great, thank you micromass!
'NP hard', not just 'hard'... sounds quite scary! :O( :O)
 

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