How to solve for q after finding derivative (derived) equation?

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The discussion centers on solving for the variable q in the derived equation T = 0.5q + 4q^(-1/2) + 9/q. A key insight is the suggestion to substitute q^(-1/2) with w, transforming the equation into a quartic polynomial in w. While this quartic equation theoretically has an analytic solution, its complexity renders it impractical for straightforward use. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly deriving equations and the potential for numerical methods when analytical solutions are too complex.

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I have started with the formula.

T = 0.5q+4q^(-1/2)+9/q

I have derived and am trying to solve for q but have gotten caught up on how to solve when I have to subtract two variables with different base numbers and different exponents.

2aj3l7q.jpg


Any ideas?
 
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noid said:
I have started with the formula.

T = 0.5q+4q^(-1/2)+9/q

I have derived and am trying to solve for q but have gotten caught up on how to solve when I have to subtract two variables with different base numbers and different exponents.

2aj3l7q.jpg


Any ideas?

For one thing you made a mistake to start. If you divide both sides by q then the left side should be T/q. The correct way to go is probably to set q^(-1/2)=w, then express the other powers of q in terms w. If you work it through you'll get a quartic equation in w, a polynomial equation with w^4 as the highest power. The good news is that in principle, has a analytic solution. The bad news is that it's so complex as to to be basically useless. Are you sure you haven't made a mistake in deriving the equation you showed us? Where did it come from??
 
Sorry for the misunderstanding: The second line is actually the derivative in respect to q of the first line (I forgot to put ' after T). Then from the second line I want to find what q is (after setting T to 0).
 
noid said:
Sorry for the misunderstanding: The second line is actually the derivative in respect to q of the first line (I forgot to put ' after T). Then from the second line I want to find what q is (after setting T to 0).

Ah, ok. I should have spotted that. If you don't have a T in it then you can still change it into a quartic equation in w. Then you could hope it factors, but I don't think it does. If not you'll just have to find the roots numerically.
 

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