How to Solve This Trigonometric Limit as x Approaches Infinity?

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The discussion centers around evaluating the limit of a trigonometric function as \( x \) approaches infinity, specifically the limit of \( \sin (x\pi\sqrt [3] {x^3+3x^2+4x-5}) \). Participants explore various approaches and reasoning related to the behavior of the function in this limit.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the limit does not exist because as \( y \) approaches infinity, \( \sin(y) \) oscillates between -1 and 1, preventing convergence to a single limit.
  • Another participant proposes a manipulation of the limit involving an additional term, suggesting that it approaches \( \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} \) under certain conditions.
  • A subsequent reply questions the validity of the additional term's impact, arguing that the dominant behavior of the cubic root term will overshadow any contributions from the additional terms as \( x \) approaches infinity.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake in their previous message regarding the variable used in their argument, clarifying that it should be \( x \) instead of \( n \).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the limit's existence and value, with no consensus reached on the final outcome or the validity of the proposed approaches.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves complex manipulations of limits and oscillatory behavior, with participants relying on assumptions about the dominance of certain terms as \( x \) approaches infinity. Specific mathematical steps and definitions are not fully resolved.

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Hi to everyone. I'm new on here (in fact, this is my really first message). I need some help with the next limit, I hope you can help me:

$$\lim_{x \to \infty} \sin (x\pi\sqrt [3] {x^3+3x^2+4x-5})$$​

Thank you so much for your time! :)
 
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Francolino said:
Hi to everyone. I'm new on here (in fact, this is my really first message). I need some help with the next limit, I hope you can help me:

$$\lim_{x \to \infty} \sin (x\pi\sqrt [3] {x^3+3x^2+4x-5})$$​

Thank you so much for your time! :)

Hi Francolino,

The limit of your function does not exist. To see why, suppose it did have a limit, $L$. Let $y = \pi x\sqrt[3]{x^3 + 3x^2 + 4x - 5}$. Then $y \to \infty$ as $x \to \infty$. So (*) $L = \lim_{y \to \infty} \sin{y}$. However, as $y$ increases without bound, $\sin(y)$ oscillates between -1 and 1. Therefore, (*) cannot hold.
 
Thanks again, for answering. :)

$$\displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty} \sin (x\pi\sqrt [3] {x^3+3x^2+4x-5} + 0) = \displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty} \sin (x\pi\sqrt [3] {x^3+3x^2+4x-5} + [x·(x+1)·\pi - x·(x+1)·\pi])$$

As $x·(x+1)·\pi$ is always a pair number (no matter what intenger $x$ is), so:
$$\displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty} \sin (x\pi\sqrt [3] {x^3+3x^2+4x-5} \pi -x·(x+1)·\pi) = \frac {\sqrt {3}}{2}$$

What do you think?
 
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Francolino said:
Thanks again, for answering. :)

$$\displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty} \sin (x\pi\sqrt [3] {x^3+3x^2+4x-5} + 0) = \displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty} \sin (x\pi\sqrt [3] {x^3+3x^2+4x-5} + [n·(n+1)·\pi - n·(n+1)·\pi])$$

As $n·(n+1)·\pi$ is always a pair number (no matter what intenger $n$ is), so:
$$\displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty} \sin (x\pi\sqrt [3] {x^3+3x^2+4x-5} \pi - n·(n+1)·\pi) = \frac {\sqrt {3}}{2}$$

What do you think?
It doesn't change the previous argument. Look at it this way, the limit of the cubic is essentially linear in x (after the cube root) and will swamp any terms in n, unless perhaps you take n to infinity as well. I'll leave that to the professionals. In this case though, your terms in n will not have an effect when x goes to infinity.

Writing in the "intermediate" step:

$$\displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty } \sin \left ( x \pi \sqrt [3] {x^3+3x^2+4x-5} - n\cdot(n+1)\cdot\pi \right ) \to \lim_{x \to \infty } \sin \left ( x \pi \sqrt [3] {x^3+3x^2+4x-5} \right )$$

so your n argument doesn't actually change anything.

-Dan
 
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I apologize myself. I commited a mistake typing my last message. Now, the error is fixed.

Forget about $ n $. It's $ x $, now. Sorry.
 

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