How to solve using Leibniz Rule

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Leibniz rule in calculus, particularly in the context of evaluating integrals that involve variable limits and parameters. Participants are attempting to solve a specific integral problem that appears to involve trigonometric functions and possibly some typographical errors in the problem statement.

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  • Participants discuss the use of the Leibniz rule and express confusion regarding the problem statement, including potential typos. Some suggest using substitution methods, while others emphasize sticking to the Leibniz rule. There are mentions of changing variables and exploring different integral forms.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants sharing their thoughts and approaches. Some have provided links to resources for further exploration, while others are seeking more guidance on how to proceed with the integral. There is no clear consensus on a single method or solution at this point.

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Participants note that the limits of the integral are constant, which affects the application of the Leibniz rule. There is also mention of using computational tools like Wolfram Alpha to assist with the problem.

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here is i am still stuck.
 
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I believe there are quite a few typos in the problem statement if you are intending to use Leibniz rule. I for one have never seen an ##\text{In}## function before.

The Leibniz rule in one dimension would be:

$$\frac{d}{dx} \int_{a(x)}^{b(x)} f(t) dt = f(b(x)) b'(x) - f(a(x)) a'(x)$$

EDIT: It would be more appropriate to call this the fundamental theorem.
 
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at first i am use substitution. some one said
Don't use substitution, use Leibniz rule with α as the second variable.

what am i do now?
 
i know the Leibniz's rule. i solve many mathematical term . bt i cann't solve this math with Leibniz rule. i am still stuck
here. here limit is constant so 2nd and 3rd term will be zero.
 
any one solve this mathematical term and prove it??
 
Md. Abde Mannaf said:
i know the Leibniz's rule. i solve many mathematical term . bt i cann't solve this math with Leibniz rule. i am still stuck
here. here limit is constant so 2nd and 3rd term will be zero.

Your application of Leibnitz' rule is correct. You could try to change variables to ##u = \cos(x)## in your integral.
 
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Zondrina said:
if you are intending to use Leibniz rule. I for one have never seen an In\text{In} function before.
See this, example 3.
Now let's do that daunting looking integral. Like I said before, this is a good problem.
First write ##\int_0^{\pi} \frac{1}{\alpha}-\frac{1}{(\alpha)(1+\alpha cos(x))} dx## for the original integral.
However ##\int \frac{1}{1+\alpha cos(x)} dx## itself is not nice, in-fact it's pretty nasty. It will be an interesting exercise to do, but even after that there is a good bit to do for the original problem. So I would recommend you use Wolfram for that for now, and proceed.
 
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i could not solve this math above analysis . i am trying to my best. but i am fail every time. and again try...

please see this and give me more idea to solve
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Md. Abde Mannaf said:

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here is i am still stuck.
You can even cheat :) using wolframalpha.com.
The substitution tan(x/2)=u works well if you have a rational expression of trigonometric functions. Try.
 
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Zondrina said:
I believe there are quite a few typos in the problem statement if you are intending to use Leibniz rule. I for one have never seen an ##\text{In}## function before.

The Leibniz rule in one dimension would be:

$$\frac{d}{dx} \int_{a(x)}^{b(x)} f(t) dt = f(b(x)) b'(x) - f(a(x)) a'(x)$$

EDIT: It would be more appropriate to call this the fundamental theorem.

The derivation of the OP is correct. Read Leibnitz Rule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz_integral_rule
 
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In regards to post #9:- I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to do here. Did you have a look at the links I provided in post #8. I think your trying to come up with a value for ##\int_0^{\pi} \frac{1}{1+\alpha cos(x)} dx## for ##|\alpha|<1##using ##\int_0^{\pi} \frac{1}{\alpha-cos(x)} dx=\frac{\pi}{\sqrt{\alpha^2-1}}## for ##|\alpha|>1##, however that + sign in the original integral makes a good difference.
ehild said:
You can even cheat :) using wolframalpha.com.
Does no one read my posts :-)
 
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Md. Abde Mannaf said:
i could not solve this math above analysis . i am trying to my best. but i am fail every time. and again try...

please see this and give me more idea to solve
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You can write your integral for ##f'(\alpha)## as ##\int_0^{\pi/2} + \int_{\pi/2}^{\pi}##, then change variables to ##x \leftarrow \pi -x## in the second integral, to get
f&#039;(\alpha) = \int_0^{\pi/2} \left[ \frac{\cos(x)}{1 + \alpha \cos(x)} - \frac{\cos(x)}{1 - \alpha \cos(x)} \right] \, dx \\<br /> = -\int_0^{\pi/2} \frac{2 \alpha \cos^2(x)}{1 - \alpha^2 \cos^2(x)} \, dx
Changing variables to ##\tan(x) = y## produces an integral in ##y## that can be split up into partial fractions, giving two well-known and easily do-able integrations.
 
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certainly said:
Now let's do that daunting looking integral. Like I said before, this is a good problem.
First write ##\int_0^{\pi} \frac{1}{\alpha}-\frac{1}{(\alpha)(1+\alpha cos(x))} dx## for the original integral.
However ##\int \frac{1}{1+\alpha cos(x)} dx## itself is not nice, in-fact it's pretty nasty.
##\int \frac{1}{1+\alpha cos(x)} dx## is not that nasty.
Use the identity ##\cos(x)=\frac{1-\tan^2(x/2)}{1+\tan^2(x/2)}##. Substitute u=tan(x/2), x=2arctan(u), ##dx=\frac{2}{1+u^2}du##. The integration limits become 0-->infinite.
 
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ehild said:
##\int \frac{1}{1+\alpha cos(x)} dx## is not that nasty.
Use the identity ##\cos(x)=\frac{1-\tan^2(x/2)}{1+\tan^2(x/2)}##. Substitute u=tan(x/2), x=2arctan(u), ##dx=\frac{2}{1+u^2}du##. The integration limits become 0-->infinite.
Yeah, your right. I didn't actually do the integral, I only saw the answer and thought, this might take some time.
 
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