How to tell if something has a common factor

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The discussion centers on determining whether two numbers have common factors based on their sets of prime factors, specifically in relation to whether the fraction formed by dividing these numbers is irreducible. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification regarding prime factorization and irreducibility.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if the intersection of the sets of prime factors of two numbers is empty, then those numbers have no common factors.
  • There is a question about whether an empty intersection of prime factors implies that the fraction formed by dividing the two numbers is irreducible.
  • One participant clarifies that a set of prime factors cannot contain composite factors, suggesting a focus on prime factors only.
  • A later reply suggests that if two positive integers have disjoint sets of prime factors, then the fraction formed by dividing them is irreducible.
  • Another participant references the theory behind the greatest common divisor (gcd) and suggests resources related to Euclid's algorithm and the Chinese remainder theorem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of having an empty intersection of prime factors, particularly regarding the irreducibility of the fraction formed by the two numbers. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore various aspects of the question.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of prime and composite factors, as well as the assumptions made about the nature of the numbers involved (e.g., whether they are positive integers). Some mathematical steps and definitions remain unresolved.

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if we have 6 and 9

and we break them down to sets of prime factors {2,3} , and {3}

if the intersection of the 2 sets is empty..does this mean that numbers have no common factors?

or in more specific to my interest...

if we have P and Q and we have their sets of prime factors, if the intersection is empty does this mean P/Q is an irreducible fraction?

or is this only true for their sets of non-zero prime+composite factors?

thanks
 
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rsala004 said:
if we have 6 and 9

and we break them down to sets of prime factors {2,3} , and {3}

if the intersection of the 2 sets is empty..does this mean that numbers have no common factors?

or in more specific to my interest...

if we have P and Q and we have their sets of prime factors, if the intersection is empty does this mean P/Q is an irreducible fraction?

or is this only true for their sets of non-zero prime+composite factors?

thanks
Your main question has yes as an answer.

I don't know what you mean by
this only true for their sets of non-zero prime+composite factors
 
rsala004 said:
if we have P and Q and we have their sets of prime factors, if the intersection is empty does this mean P/Q is an irreducible fraction?

or is this only true for their sets of non-zero prime+composite factors?

thanks


By definition, a set of prime factors won't contain any composites.
 
I'm going to guess the question and then answer what I thought the question was.

Question: Given positive integers m and n, if the set M of primes dividing m and the set N of primes dividing n are disjoint (have an empty intersection), is m/n an irreducible fraction? [If this is false, is it at least the case that if the set M' of divisors of m and the set N' of divisors of n have {1} as their intersection, is m/n an irreducible fraction?]

Answer: Yes, if there are no primes in common than m/n is irreducible.
 

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