How to write another expression (for n) when given a series sum?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding an expression for Sn-1 given the series sum Sn = n^2 + 2n. Participants are exploring how to express Sn-1 in terms of n while grappling with the nature of the series and its terms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to identify patterns in the first three terms of the series and express confusion over the varying ratios. Others suggest substituting n-1 into the original expression for Sn to derive Sn-1.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering different perspectives on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding substitution, but there is no clear consensus on the best method to derive Sn-1.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the increasing differences between terms, indicating a quadratic nature of the series, which adds complexity to the problem. There is mention of confusion regarding the common ratios and the arithmetic nature of the series.

shocklightnin
Messages
31
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Sorry if the question sounds a bit off, i wasnt quite sure how to word it.

My math question is: given the expression Sn=n^2 + 2n, determine an expression, in simplified form, for Sn-1 in terms of n.


Homework Equations



NA (i don't think there are any equations for this)

The Attempt at a Solution



I honestly don't know how to go about this properly but here's what I've done:

First three terms are 3, 8 and 15. All of which have a different 'common ratio' when 8 is divided by 3, its 2.67 but when 15/8 its 1.875?
Which confuses me further, and as for the original question, no idea how to proceed.

Any help is much appreciated, thanks.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
try substituting n-1 for in in the expression for S(n) and then simplifying the result.
 
shocklightnin said:
My math question is: given the expression Sn=n^2 + 2n, determine an expression, in simplified form, for Sn-1 in terms of n.

First three terms are 3, 8 and 15. All of which have a different 'common ratio' when 8 is divided by 3, its 2.67 but when 15/8 its 1.875?
Which confuses me further...

Well of course the ratios aren't the same! It's a quadratic! Not a linear equation...
 
Its not a case of dividing the n-1 by n as it is a ascending arithmetic method as the difference keeps increasing by 2:

1 2 3
3 8 15

8-3 = 5, 15-8 = 7, so the next difference will equal 9 then 11 and so on an so forth, so your equation is essentially using the "box" number, 1 2 3, to get the actual number in the formula

So if Sn=n^2 + 2n, Sn-1 means you have to rewrite the formula in terms of the previous number
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
4K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
4K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K