How to write statements with negation and disjunction in symbolic form?

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The discussion revolves around translating statements involving negation and disjunction into symbolic logic. The original poster presents two statements related to personal preferences about cars and trees, seeking guidance on their symbolic representation.

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  • Participants explore different interpretations of the statements and their symbolic forms, questioning the correctness of the original poster's attempts. They discuss the implications of punctuation and phrasing in the context of logical expressions.

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There is an active exchange of ideas, with some participants agreeing on alternative interpretations of the statements. The discussion reflects a mix of perspectives on how to accurately represent the logic in symbolic form, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants reference examples from a textbook, which may influence their understanding of the statements. There is an ongoing examination of how grammatical elements, such as commas, affect the meaning of the logical expressions.

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Homework Statement



This is just a simple logic question that I need a little guidance.
Let X= "I like cars"
Let Y= "I like trees"
Let ~ = not
Let V = or

How would this be written in symbols:
1. It is not the case that I like cars or I like trees
2. It is not the case that I like cars, or I like trees

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1. ~X V Y
2. ~(X V Y)
 
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your answers should be vice versa I think
 
First statement: "It is not the case that: (I like cars or I like trees).

Second statement: (It is not the case that I like cars) or (it is not the case that I like trees).

I agree with theperthvan.
 
that's what I thought, but the examples in the book gives the following:

P=Irene has red hair

PV~P = "Irene has red hair or she dos not have red hair"

if what you say is correct, then the example should say:

PV~P = "Irene has red hair, or she dos not have red hair"
 
?? The only difference I see is a comma which, grammatically, is optional here. Both sentences mean the same thing.
 
then shouldn't this be the same thing as well?
1. It is not the case that I like cars or I like trees
2. It is not the case that I like cars, or I like trees

Say X- I like cars and Y=I like trees
then using the example from the book
PV~P = "Irene has red hair or she dos not have red hair"

i could say ~X V Y, which would read: "I do not like cars or I like trees"

looking back at
1. It is not the case that I like cars or I like trees

would this be ~X V Y and not ~(X V Y)
 
HallsofIvy said:
Second statement: (It is not the case that I like cars) or (it is not the case that I like trees).
The statement: "It is not the case that I like cars, or I like trees" also could read "(It is not the case that I like cars) or (It is the case that I like trees)".
 
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