How was transparent aluminum created using high power X-ray sources?

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter fourier jr
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Aluminum Transparent
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the creation of transparent aluminum using high-power X-ray sources, exploring the implications of this discovery for understanding new states of matter and potential applications in fields like nuclear fusion and materials science.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the creation of transparent aluminum, noting its potential relevance to conditions inside large planets and the study of miniature stars.
  • One participant questions the classification of an "ion" as a new state of matter and references a graphics textbook that suggests metals can appear transparent under certain conditions.
  • Another participant highlights the existence of the Linac Coherent Light Source (LCLS) as a powerful X-ray source, suggesting that the claim of the new laser being the "world’s most powerful" may be overstated.
  • A participant recalls previous work on transparent aluminum armor (aluminum oxynitride - ALON) and its military applications, indicating that this concept has been explored for several years.
  • There are references to popular culture, specifically Star Trek, in relation to the concept of transparent aluminum, with some participants reminiscing about its fictional portrayal.
  • One participant mentions that if oxides are included in the definition, transparent aluminum may not be as rare as suggested.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of enthusiasm and skepticism regarding the implications and definitions surrounding transparent aluminum. There is no consensus on the classification of the material or the significance of the findings, with multiple competing views remaining.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the properties of transparent aluminum and its comparison to other materials remain unresolved, and the discussion includes references to both scientific and popular culture contexts that may influence perceptions of the topic.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in advanced materials science, the applications of high-power lasers, and the intersection of science and popular culture may find this discussion relevant.

fourier jr
Messages
764
Reaction score
13
very cool. & it isn't even the 23rd century yet. i can't even find the part of the abstract where they say they turned it transparent though :-p (i guess it's the 3rd sentence?)
http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/nphys1341.html

''What we have created is a completely new state of matter nobody has seen before,’ said Professor Justin Wark of Oxford University’s Department of Physics, one of the authors of the paper. ‘Transparent aluminium is just the start. The physical properties of the matter we are creating are relevant to the conditions inside large planets, and we also hope that by studying it we can gain a greater understanding of what is going on during the creation of 'miniature stars' created by high-power laser implosions, which may one day allow the power of nuclear fusion to be harnessed here on Earth.’

The discovery was made possible with the development of a new source of radiation that is ten billion times brighter than any synchrotron in the world (such as the UK’s Diamond Light Source). The FLASH laser, based in Hamburg, Germany, produces extremely brief pulses of soft X-ray light, each of which is more powerful than the output of a power plant that provides electricity to a whole city.

The Oxford team, along with their international colleagues, focused all this power down into a spot with a diameter less than a twentieth of the width of a human hair. At such high intensities the aluminium turned transparent.

Whilst the invisible effect lasted for only an extremely brief period – an estimated 40 femtoseconds – it demonstrates that such an exotic state of matter can be created using very high power X-ray sources.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090727130814.htm
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
1) How is an "ion" a whole new state of matter?

2) My graphics textbook says that metals can be modeled well as dielectrics with very high optical density, and that thin pieces of metal do look transparent naturally

3) "the world’s most powerful soft X-ray laser." sounds pretty impressive until you learn that,

"The world's brightest X-ray source sprang to life last week at the U.S. Department of Energy's SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory. The Linac Coherent Light Source (LCLS) offers researchers the first-ever glimpse of high-energy or "hard" X-ray laser light produced in a laboratory."

(this coming from my previous post about the new X-ray laser),
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=309012&highlight=x-ray+laser
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Haven't people been playing with this for almost five years now? Or is this something different?

Transparent Aluminum Armor
Transparent aluminum armor (aluminum oxynitride - ALON) is being tested by the military as a lighter and stronger alternative to traditional materials.
http://www.space.com/technology/top10-star-trek-tech-3.html


How Transparent Aluminum Armor Works
With a sense of optimism restrained by economic reality, the U.S. Air Force announced in 2005 the results of a series of tests conducted on the materia*l the previous year.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/transparent-aluminum-armor.htm
 
Last edited by a moderator:
fourier jr said:
very cool. & it isn't even the 23rd century yet.

Recall that Scotty gave us the formula back in the 1980s [90s?] when he came back to get some whales.
 
Ivan Seeking said:
Recall that Scotty gave us the formula back in the 1980s [90s?] when he came back to get some whales.

you mean this one

http://www.scifitv.com.au/Content/Blog/Pictures/Transparent_Aluminum2.jpg

MacintoshPlus.jpg
 
Last edited by a moderator:
That was a good star trek movie :) much better than the latest one
 
Transparent aluminum armor (aluminum oxynitride - ALON)
If you are allowed to use oxides then transparent aluminium isn't all that rare.

240px-National_Museum_of_Natural_History_Sapphires.JPG
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
6K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
5K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K