How will George W. Bush figure in world history?

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The discussion revolves around the historical legacy of President George W. Bush, examining how he may be viewed in the future by both Americans and the global community. Participants explore various aspects of his presidency, including his responses to terrorism, economic policies, and public perception, while considering the challenges of assessing his impact while he is still in office.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that Bush will be remembered poorly, with one stating he will likely rank low in historical assessments due to his economic policies and perceived high-handedness.
  • Others argue that his speeches following 9/11 were stirring and may positively influence his legacy, particularly regarding the U.S. response to terrorism.
  • There are differing views on how history will judge Bush's actions, with some believing that his presidency will be seen as a disaster, while others think he may be viewed more favorably in the context of his decisions during crises.
  • Participants discuss the influence of popular versus professional historical narratives, noting that public perception can differ significantly from academic evaluations.
  • Some express skepticism about the fairness of historical memory, comparing Bush's legacy to that of other presidents like Nixon and Clinton, suggesting that certain actions may overshadow others in public memory.
  • There is a contention regarding the effectiveness of his foreign policy, particularly the decision to invade Iraq instead of focusing on Afghanistan, with some arguing that this was a significant blunder.
  • Several participants express strong personal opinions about Bush, with some using derogatory terms and others emphasizing their difficulty in respecting him despite acknowledging his importance in recent history.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on Bush's historical legacy, with multiple competing views remaining. Some agree on the challenges of judging his presidency while it is ongoing, while others express strong negative opinions about his actions and decisions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of historical judgment, noting that assessments may vary based on the lens through which they are viewed, including the distinction between popular and academic history. The discussion reflects ongoing uncertainties regarding the long-term implications of Bush's presidency.

  • #31
World history?
A Texas cow-boy with bad friends. But we have to wait 50 years before the classified files will be opened. That will show how much damage he caused 'inside' USA, and will show the dirty games he played outside USA in the name of national security and national interest.
 
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  • #32
I think you can't really tell how history will treat people until anyone with a personal stake in that person's reputation is dead. As far as presidents go, I think Eisenhauer is a historical figure, but JFK is still a political one.

I think Bush will be remembered. For better or worse, he will be tied to 9/11. While the Iraq war will fade into the pack of other little wars we've had (who remembers the 1935 invasion of Nicaragua?) 9/11 will always be significant.

Njorl
 
  • #33
He will be rated as one of the best; 5-12.
 
  • #34
Strategically, I think he did his best to save face in the circumstances of adversity.
You;re probably right that it was a strategic move, meant to deflect media attention away from failures in Afghanistan and the US economy, but the conventional wisdom is that he had it planned from the beginning, invading Iraq. The "neocons" like VVolfowitz seem to be the ones in true control of foreign policy, projecting candy-land possibilities to the suggestive president.
The problem is that you're going from the frying pan into the fire, from one failed plan to another.
 
  • #35
How will George W. Bush figure in world history? A bush figure.
 

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