How will replacing the coalition with a UN force help?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential implications of replacing coalition forces in Iraq with a United Nations (UN) force. Participants explore various aspects including security, humanitarian aid, and the transfer of power, while referencing historical precedents and current conditions in Iraq.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the effectiveness of a UN force in improving security, citing historical failures in peacekeeping missions like those in Rwanda and Srebrenica.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the source of troops for a UN force, with participants questioning whether nations will contribute soldiers and how this would differ from the current coalition forces.
  • There is a belief among some that the insurgency in Iraq will not be calmed simply by a change in the label of the forces present, as the underlying issues remain unresolved.
  • Participants discuss the current state of humanitarian aid in Iraq, suggesting that improvements have already been made and questioning the UN's ability to enhance these efforts.
  • Some argue that the US should remain in Iraq to take responsibility for the situation it has created, rather than transferring control to the UN.
  • One viewpoint suggests that a UN force could be beneficial if it helps establish peace among factions before elections, but emphasizes the need for a capable force to prevent violence.
  • There are assertions that the presence of more foreign troops, regardless of their affiliation, could lead to increased tensions and casualties.
  • Discussion includes references to the US's stated goals of promoting democracy in Iraq, with some participants questioning the authenticity of these claims and seeking evidence of such intentions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the effectiveness of a UN force in Iraq, with multiple competing views on the potential benefits and drawbacks. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best course of action for Iraq's future.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about the capabilities and intentions of both the UN and the US, as well as the current state of Iraq's security and humanitarian situation. There are unresolved questions about the feasibility of a successful transition to a UN-led operation.

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The UN brings with it the air of International legitimacy, legal ligitimacy, as if all of the rest of the countries of the world agree, hence what's wrong with Iraq that it is against the entire planet...

The logisitics are another thing all-together...right now I don't think anyone knows with certainty what will happen after the deadline passes if the US Does pull out it's troops, civil war?? religious war?? (an oxymoron?) three new (tribally/faction based) Nation states?

Lets just hope that the killing stops...that was, after all, the reason for going to war, to stop the killing...right? cause you cannot stop the "threat of a killing"...
 

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