How Would Time Run Without Movement? G.R. & S.R. Explained

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of time, movement, and their relationship as described by General Relativity (G.R.) and Special Relativity (S.R.). Participants explore the implications of time dilation in different frames of reference and question the nature of time in a hypothetical scenario where there is no movement.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether there could be a location in the universe where time runs differently due to the absence of movement.
  • Another participant emphasizes that time dilation is relative, noting that if one clock runs slower, the other clock will also observe the first clock as running slower.
  • A different participant challenges the initial question, suggesting it lacks coherence within the framework of relativity.
  • One participant proposes the idea of viewing the universe as a single frame of reference.
  • Another participant clarifies that all inertial frames of reference are equivalent and that there is no absolute rest frame, highlighting the differences between flat spacetime in S.R. and curved spacetime in G.R.
  • A later reply acknowledges the clarification and expresses understanding regarding the initial question's lack of sense.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the coherence of the initial question regarding time without movement. While some clarify concepts related to frames of reference, there is no consensus on the original inquiry's validity.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects limitations in understanding the implications of relativity, particularly concerning the nature of time and movement. There are unresolved assumptions about the definitions of movement and time in different frames of reference.

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I have an interesting question for everyone I understand G.R. and S.R. fairly well without too much trouble. I know that if A is moving faster than B in a frame of reference. The clock for A will run slower compared to B's clock. My question is could there be some place in the universe where there is no movement and time spins out of control compared to the rest of the universe
 
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hsdrop said:
I have an interesting question for everyone I understand G.R. and S.R. fairly well without too much trouble. I know that if A is moving faster than B in a frame of reference. The clock for A will run slower compared to B's clock. My question is could there be some place in the universe where there is no movement and time spins out of control compared to the rest of the universe
(Uniform) motion is entirely relative, any inertial clock can be considered "stationary". Time dilation due to relative motion is mutual, clock A observes clock B ticking slower and clock B observes clock A ticking slower too.
 
hsdrop said:
I have an interesting question for everyone I understand G.R. and S.R. fairly well without too much trouble. I know that if A is moving faster than B in a frame of reference. The clock for A will run slower compared to B's clock. My question is could there be some place in the universe where there is no movement and time spins out of control compared to the rest of the universe
If you understand SR and GR fairly well, then you will know yourself that your question makes no sense.
 
hmmm ok can we look at the universe as a single frame of reference?
 
hsdrop said:
hmmm ok can we look at the universe as a single frame of reference?
I relativity all inertial frames or reference (IFR) are equivalent, there is no special or preferred IFR that is at absolute rest and relative to which one can measure absolute motion.
In a flat spacetime (SR) all IFRs have global extent, in the real Universe which has curved spacetime (GR) all IFRs are local so there is no single one covering the entire Universe.
 
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ok thank you that makes a little more sense to me and now i can see why the first question i asked did not make any sense
 

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