How would you classify this Excitation Force?

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The discussion revolves around classifying the excitation force in a linear generator system designed to generate electricity from vehicle movement. Participants explore the nature of the excitation force, which is not sinusoidal, and consider its characteristics, including whether it can be classified as a rectangular pulse. The conversation also touches on the mutual magnetic induction between the coil and magnet, and the relevant mechanical and electrical equations governing the system.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a linear generator system involving a magnet, spring, and coil, and seeks to classify the excitation force experienced by the system.
  • Another participant suggests that mutual magnetic induction of the coil and magnet should be considered in modeling the system.
  • A participant confirms that mutual induction will be accounted for and mentions using mechanical and electrical equations to predict power output.
  • There is a request for sharing the differential equations set up to solve explicitly for the force.
  • A participant provides the mechanical and electrical equations governing the system but expresses uncertainty about the function F(t) and how to solve for it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of mutual induction and the use of differential equations, but there is no consensus on the classification of the excitation force or how to solve for F(t).

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes unresolved aspects regarding the nature of the excitation force and the specific form of F(t), which remains unclear. There may be dependencies on definitions and assumptions related to the system's parameters.

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Hi guys, I will really appreciate it if you respond to this my question.

Actually I am working on a linear generator that can be use on land to generate electricity from the movement of vehicles.

The system consists of a magnet that is connected to a spring as shown in the picture. The magnet is surrounded by a coil of wire which is not shown in the diagram. The system will be constructed in such a way that when a vehicle move over it, a plunger will slide down a cylinder and push down the magnet against the spring force. Once the vehicle have pass, the plunger will be forced upward to its original position above the magnet, leaving the magnet to oscillate.

Now the question is this: How would you classify the excitation force in this system? I know it is not a sinusoidal force. I have been suspecting it to be a rectangular pulse. I will be happy to get your views.
 

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Is the mutual magnetic induction of the coil & the magnet to be taken into account? We can construct a simple model based on that.
 
Yes the mutual induction of the coil and magnet will be taken into account. All the ebooks i have come across have always used two equations to predict power output and these equations are the mechanical and electrical equations. I will appreciate any input to this question but my main problem is identifying the type of excitation force the system will experience.
 
Would you share the differential equations set up? We could solve explicitely for the force.
 
Thanks for your reply Eynstone, here is the differential equations:

my"+cy'+ky=F(t) ……..mechanical equation

where m=mass of the magnet
c=damping coefficient
k=spring constant
y=displacement of the magnet
y’=velocity of the magnet
y’’=acceleration of the magnet

Bly'=Lq"+(Ri+RL)q' ……………..electrical equation

Where B= magnetic flux density of the magnet
l= active length of the coil
q’= current in the coil (i.e time rate of change of charge, q)
Ri= resistance of the coil
RL= resistance of the inductor

The problem is the F(t) and how to solve for it.
 

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