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it is such a weird object
mysterious almost spiritual
mysterious almost spiritual
How would you describe a black hole
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the nature and description of black holes, exploring their characteristics and the challenges in understanding them. Participants share their perspectives on whether terms like "opaque" and "transparent" apply to black holes, as well as the complexities involved in describing such objects.
Discussion Character
- Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised
- Some participants describe black holes as mysterious and complicated objects that are difficult to articulate.
- One participant suggests that a black hole is defined by its gravity being so strong that light cannot escape, but acknowledges this as an oversimplification.
- Another participant expresses that they find black holes opaque in the sense that they are hard to understand, despite acknowledging that the term may not fully apply.
- Some argue that the terms "opaque" and "transparent" do not accurately describe black holes, as light that crosses the event horizon cannot escape, making them dark in that context.
- One participant mentions that black holes can radiate light for complex reasons, suggesting that a deeper understanding of black holes is necessary before addressing these nuances.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the applicability of the terms "opaque" and "transparent" to black holes, with no consensus reached on the best way to describe their nature. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the clarity of understanding black holes.
Contextual Notes
Some participants note that their understanding of black holes is limited by their background knowledge, indicating that definitions and descriptions may depend on individual perspectives and familiarity with astrophysics.
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cre8flow
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would any of you consider a black hole to be opaque
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A black hole is a really complicated thing that's not really easy to describe. If I HAD to, I would say that a black hole is an object whose gravity is so strong that light cannot escape.
But instead of listening to my bad oversimplification, I'd read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole
Also to your second question, the words 'transparent' and 'opaque' don't really apply here.
But instead of listening to my bad oversimplification, I'd read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole
Also to your second question, the words 'transparent' and 'opaque' don't really apply here.
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cre8flow
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i have read it and i am trying to absorb it
but i am not an astrophysicist so i am going to see it in a different way
it is opaque to me in that its an object that is hard to understand-obscure
and possibly dark
the other definitions of opaque probably do not apply but i am not sure
not allowing light to pass through
but i am not an astrophysicist so i am going to see it in a different way
it is opaque to me in that its an object that is hard to understand-obscure
and possibly dark
the other definitions of opaque probably do not apply but i am not sure
not allowing light to pass through
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Vorde
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Well it is not that hard to understand-once you accept certain base axioms.
Opaque and Transparent really don't apply here. Any light that passes through the event horizon (enters the black hole) will never come out, so in that way it is dark.
In actuality, black holes actually radiate light-but it is for complex reasons that I wouldn't worry about until you have grasped the more basic aspects of black holes.
Opaque and Transparent really don't apply here. Any light that passes through the event horizon (enters the black hole) will never come out, so in that way it is dark.
In actuality, black holes actually radiate light-but it is for complex reasons that I wouldn't worry about until you have grasped the more basic aspects of black holes.
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SHISHKABOB
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Vorde said:
by opaque he means
4. hard to understand; not clear or lucid; obscure: The problem remains opaque despite explanations.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/opaque?s=t
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Vorde
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SHISHKABOB said:by opaque he means
4. hard to understand; not clear or lucid; obscure: The problem remains opaque despite explanations.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/opaque?s=t
Well I'm an idiot.
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