Does humidity affect air density?

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The discussion centers on whether humidity affects air density, exploring the relationship between the presence of water vapor in the air and the overall density of the air mixture. Participants consider theoretical and empirical aspects of this topic.

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  • One participant questions if humidity affects air density, seeking clarification on the topic.
  • Another participant suggests that a partial pressures analysis and possibly a psychometric chart would be necessary to understand the water content and its effect on density.
  • Some participants argue that humid air is less dense than dry air due to the lower molar mass of water compared to the primary components of air (N2 and O2).
  • Conversely, one participant expresses an initial belief that humid air is more dense than dry air but later acknowledges that this belief was incorrect, referencing an external source.
  • Further elaboration is provided on the molecular masses of air components and how the presence of water vapor displaces heavier gases, contributing to the argument that humid air is less dense.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between humidity and air density, with some asserting that humid air is less dense and others initially believing the opposite. The discussion remains unresolved as participants present competing perspectives.

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Some claims rely on assumptions about the behavior of gases and the specific conditions under which the analysis is made, such as temperature and pressure, which are not fully explored in the discussion.

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Hi, as the topic stated, i would like to find out, does the humidity in the air affect the density??
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I wouldn't see how it couldn't. I would think you would need to do a partial pressures analysis to see the water content (prolly involving a psychometric chart). Then using a ratio of densities of water/air at that temperature to get the overall density.

But this is definitely just a guess.
 
The molar mass of air is almost 29. The molar mass of water is 18. The more 'less dense' gas you have intermixed into the air, the less dense the air. So, yes, humid air is less dense than dry air.
 
My gut tells me that humid air is more dense than dry air.
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My gut, apparently lies:

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/wdensity.htm
"Most people who haven't studied physics or chemistry find it hard to believe that humid air is lighter, or less dense, than dry air."

BobG seems to be right on the money.
 
BobG said:
The molar mass of air is almost 29. The molar mass of water is 18. The more 'less dense' gas you have intermixed into the air, the less dense the air. So, yes, humid air is less dense than dry air.
That's exactly it - diatomic molecules N2 and O2 have approximate molecular masses of 28 and 32 (and air is 78+% N and 21+% O with traces of other gases), which in humid air are displaced by H2O, which has a molecular mass of 18.
 

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