Hunter Gathering in 2005: Could You Survive?

[wolram]

Is that safe - sticking things up your nose? I was just looking at a cool sinus tutorial this morning, and it seems there's lots of places for the slug to crawl and get stuck.

I am sure arildno is out to shock with these tricks, i preferred the other type
of thread degeneration, that makes me smile instead of puke

 

[arildno]

Me?? Out to shock?
Perhaps just a little..

 

[brewnog]

Oh, sure; next stage is to get a ladybug to crawl up your urethra..

On a serious note, don't piss if you're swimming in the Amazon.

The Candiru, a transparent Catfish (about 2.5cm long) can swim up the urethra of a person urinating in the water. It then gets stuck by its dorsal spines, where it will cause muchos pain, infection, and death.

 

[wolram]

On a serious note, don't piss if you're swimming in the Amazon.

The Candiru, a transparent Catfish (about 2.5cm long) can swim up the urethra of a person urinating in the water. It then gets stuck by its dorsal spines, where it will cause muchos pain, infection, and death.

Ok no peeing in the amazon or putting things in strange places
To get back on track Bewy, how do you build a shelter.

 

[arildno]

On a serious note, don't piss if you're swimming in the Amazon.

The Candiru, a transparent Catfish (about 2.5cm long) can swim up the urethra of a person urinating in the water. It then gets stuck by its dorsal spines, where it will cause muchos pain, infection, and death.

And males shouldn't go skinny-dipping in waters with pike in.
There was this Norwegian lieutenant back in the 18th century who stripped down and took a bath, and then..okay, you get the rest.

 

[wolram]

And males shouldn't go skinny-dipping in waters with pike in.
There was this Norwegian lieutenant back in the 18th century who stripped down and took a bath, and then..okay, you get the rest.

yes they have a wicked bite, another no, no.

 

[brewnog]

Shelters eh.

Depends entirely on where you are. Not only because your location will determine what kind of protection you need (from cold, the elements, wild animals etc) but also what kind of materials you're likely to be able to work with.

Generally speaking, don't set up shelter on exposed hilltops (too windy), valley bottoms (cold and damp sink to these), hillside terraces which are at risk of moist ground, too close to water (trouble from insects, risk of flash floods), near solitary trees (lightning), or near hornets' nests!

My favourite shelters for woodland are those built in natural hollows, you have a ready-made space, and all you need to do is build a roof (sloping if you like) and a sleeping platform inside. For long-term shelter, sods of grass make a great waterproof roof.

 

[hypatia]

I too would look for a natural place to build shelter, a simple opened front leanto would work for a while{make sure your backs to the wind} as would a brush shelter. For long term, I would want at least one back wall of stone at least 3 to 4 ft high. To support heavier timbers and to act like a reflector for fire/heat.

 

[juvenal]

There have been times when I've been so entranced by the beauty of the natural world that I wanted to live like a native off the fat of the land. Whether I was sober or not is a completely different matter.

 

[wolram]

I think i would choose wood land for shelter , like Brewy, there is lots of
building material, i have never built a stone wall Hypatia, it sounds easy
but i think it needs skill, I think i would attempt a wattle and daub round
house, with the door way facing sun rise, i saw a reconstruction of one
in a program called time team, all about "archeology", the construction is
hard work, but they are good for ten plus years,

 

[hypatia]

Ahhh the waddle and daub, called a medicen house by natives of N. America. There a nice little place to make for the long haul.
A round dug in Hogan would be good too, not many wild animals will venture underground to go after large prey. And the above ground part is sort of like a waddle, with timbers and a solid roof.

 

[wolram]

Ahhh the waddle and daub, called a medicen house by natives of N. America. There a nice little place to make for the long haul.
A round dug in Hogan would be good too, not many wild animals will venture underground to go after large prey. And the above ground part is sort of like a waddle, with timbers and a solid roof.

Im lost, what is Hogan and waddle?underground? Hypatia what has
the medicen man given you?

 

[hypatia]

A Hogan is a round house, dug into the ground about 24 inches. With its dome roof, its about 10 ft tall in the center. Logs make up the basic structure, and mud/grass/reeds cover it. The door always faces the morning sun.
http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/000ab/000ab08d.jpg

 

[wolram]

That looks a sturdy house and no thatched roof, but how about bad
weather would it not flood when it rains.

 

[hypatia]

I've not been in one while a deluge style of rain fell, but they hold tight with the normal rains. Also rains here almost never come from the east. And of course {USA} we half to worry about tornados, so this would be my building of choice.
Round buildings offer so much more useable room.

 

[poolwin2001]

I could live off the land but aeroplanes and submarines are too damn expensive!

 

[wolram]

I've not been in one while a deluge style of rain fell, but they hold tight with the normal rains. Also rains here almost never come from the east. And of course {USA} we half to worry about tornados, so this would be my building of choice.
Round buildings offer so much more useable room.

I though we didn't have to worry about tornado's in the uk, but birmingham
central england was hit by a 130mph one this week, causing quite bad damage

Yes a round house is much more practical in materials per volume, who introduced corners, the egyptians, or older still ?

 

[hypatia]

In Egypt, most of the early homes were made of bricks, and its easier to cast them square. Most of the Myan structues were made of stone, and it was easier to carve squares, and to build in squares.
Some early cultures used both, having a long house for groups of people while famlies made round houses. But its hard to tell, just when it became the norm.

 

[wolram]

One thing bothers me about living off the land, and that is health care, ok
there are several herbal remedies for this and that, but how effective are they,
and what if you slice your self open, how could you fix a gaping wound?

 

[hypatia]

Of course if you had needle and thread, you would sew it. Even things like a hawthorn and fibers from the tendon of a animal{sinew} work well.{boil them before use} Some wounds, like puncture wounds, need to heal from the inside out, so you would pack it, then wrap it. And then change the dressings often.
Infection is your worst enemy.
Before you start any journey, you should read up on local medicinal plants. Many have antibacterial and pain relief qualities. Most of our modern medicen comes from the ancient lore of folk remedies.
This being a adventure of choice, if it looks bad, get your fanny back to town and see a doctor.

 

[hitssquad]

Rebuilding medicine after the comet

what if you slice your self open, how could you fix a gaping wound?

Needle and thread. Hydrogen peroxide works as a disinfectant. You can make our own penicillin, according to James Marusek.
http://personals.galaxyinternet.net/tunga/I19.htm

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Archived written knowledge will come into play in Stage 3. It will be important to reconstitute key industries, such as the medical industry. Compiling information prior to the impact, such as the manufacture of penicillin, will aid in the recovery of civilization.
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[wolram]

Very interesting site Hitssquad thanks.

 

[wolram]

Of course if you had needle and thread, you would sew it. Even things like a hawthorn and fibers from the tendon of a animal{sinew} work well.{boil them before use} Some wounds, like puncture wounds, need to heal from the inside out, so you would pack it, then wrap it. And then change the dressings often.
Infection is your worst enemy.
Before you start any journey, you should read up on local medicinal plants. Many have antibacterial and pain relief qualities. Most of our modern medicen comes from the ancient lore of folk remedies.
This being a adventure of choice, if it looks bad, get your fanny back to town and see a doctor.

I once had an iron fence rail puncture my arm pit, that took ages to heal, i
wonder if i would have survived in the wild.

 

[brewnog]

Always carry potassium permanganate. You can use it to start fires (mixed with sugar), sterilise wounds (in a solution), and dye snow purple to use as a marker to helicopters etc.


Heeee heeee heeee! Hyp said 'fanny'!

Wolram, was your weather at all inclement on tornado day?

 

[wolram]

Always carry potassium permanganate. You can use it to start fires (mixed with sugar), sterilise wounds (in a solution), and dye snow purple to use as a marker to helicopters etc.


Heeee heeee heeee! Hyp said 'fanny'!

Wolram, was your weather at all inclement on tornado day?

I was unsure of the word fanny, but to the americans i think it means butt.

Our weather was owt from the norm a heavy shower and that was it, i find
it strange that brum had the same thing 70 yrs ago.

 

[hypatia]

I hate tornados,they really scare me, and August is our prime month for them. We have weather sirens that warn us to take cover. Most rush into the safty of there basements/cellars.
But idiots like me rush to the porch to see if one is comming.

 

[hitssquad]

You could stand still if your home was a thin-shell concrete structure with F5-proof windows and doors.
http://www.itsa.info

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Thin-shell concrete domes have been classified as providing "near-absolute disaster resistance" by FEMA. That should help you sleep better on a stormy night.
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[wolram]

I hate tornados,they really scare me, and August is our prime month for them. We have weather sirens that warn us to take cover. Most rush into the safty of there basements/cellars.
But idiots like me rush to the porch to see if one is comming.

You silly thing, curiosity killed the cat, so next time get your fanny into the shelter. Ops now i said it.

 

[hypatia]

I like the cement houses hitssquad! They are really energy efficient too. Great link.
lol@fanny... careful its a contagious word.

ok, you have shelter..enough wood/food to last the winter. But your alone. What would you do to keep your sanity in the long winter months?

 

[wolram]

I like the cement houses hitssquad! They are really energy efficient too. Great link.
lol@fanny... careful its a contagious word.

ok, you have shelter..enough wood/food to last the winter. But your alone. What would you do to keep your sanity in the long winter months?

Star gaze, think of girls, whittle, think of girls, make hunting weapons
its no good i have gone crazy.